We are working on extending the APC cache (http://apc.communityconnect.com)
with an encoder, and already have a pretty much functioning version (though
its a bit of hack job at the moment :). I think the patches we made were
sent to the dev list, but I can send them around at request.

adamw

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Teasdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Uioreanu Calin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:54 AM
Subject: [PHP] Encoder price too high (was: Zend hit)


>
> "Uioreanu Calin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > Hello,
> >
> > What do you think about Zend position?
>
> I thought I would reply to the list on this one, basically to see if I am
in
> the minority (and if so, I will shut up!)...
>
> Firstly, many people who use PHP do so to make money - I know I do!
> Therefore, I don't see anything wrong with the guys at Zend developing
> products that make my life easier, make PHP a better product and they can
> get paid for doing so.
>
> However, although I have said the above, I do feel that the price points
> that have been chosen are very disapointing, especially for the Encoder
> Unlimited which is priced at $6000.  The guys at Zend have raised
> expectations for their products since they launched their site and I have
> been looking forward to the Encoder (as it is now called) for most of that
> time.  I can only think that it is the much larger companies that can
afford
> this kind of price and I now feel that I cannot have a "feature" that I
had
> been waiting to use for some time.  Cold Fusion has a method of encryting
> it's code, and it comes like that out of the box (and at a much cheaper
> price).  What the guys at Zend are basically saying is that if you want to
> use the better product (ie PHP) and want the encryption functionality
found
> in products like Cold Fusion, then you are going to have to pay handsomely
> for it!  I would definitely have paid $1000 for the Unlimited Encoder, but
> no more than that.
>
> What does everyone else think?  Am I being unfair here in my assessment?
>
> I know that there has been an argument on the Zend site that "until 2 days
> ago, you were happy using PHP", but I disagree with that because I've been
> waiting so long for the Encoder knowing I needed it, and delaying on
> releasing a couple of low-cost ($20 each) apps until it was ready
>
> Finally, is there anything else out there either a) in the open source
> community or b) commercially available at a more sensible price?  If not,
> are there people on this list who could band together to develop something
> that competes against it?
>
> Any replies always appreciated :)
>
> Ade
>
>
>
>
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