Dude stop being a jerk, I don't treat people this way... Ah, anyhow...
It's not me who will judge you.... Is it?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:28 AM
> To: Joe Harman
> Subject: Re: Thanks From Joe: ATM Archives and List Guidelines
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> OK, I already know your next post that will be such a great 
> challenge.   It
> will be a multipart question and all parts will have the same answer:
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> 1.  Where can I find a beautiful, bright, talented, 
> compassionate, and well educated woman, half my age, who will 
> love me and be devoted to me and our children.
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> 2.  Where can I find a doctor who will listen?
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> 3.  Where can I find a mechanic who will fix my car right the 
> first time.
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> 4.  Where can I find an honest lawyer?
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> 5.  Where can I find a realtor who places community interests 
> above profits?
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Harman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:42 PM
> Subject: Thanks From Joe: ATM Archives and List Guidelines
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> > <Cheers!>
> > Okay... Thanks to all of you... But this was the best email for 
> > guidelines I have ever seen wrote. (the 11 below)... I will stick 
> > through all the hazing... I promise... So filter me if you would 
> > like... But I hope to soon be an asset to the list...
> >
> > My next post should be challenging to even the most 
> seasoned ATMers... 
> > I promise!
> >
> > </Cheers!>
> > Joe
> >
> > :o)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of 
> > > George Anderson
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:09 PM
> > > To: Joe Harman; atm
> > > Subject: Re: ATM Archives and List Guidelines
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Joe
> > >
> > > Don't let the "rude manners" of some of the members put you off. 
> > > They are actually quite nice people who are quite willing 
> to share 
> > > information and ideas. They are just a little cranky at 
> responding 
> > > to the same seven questions (you've asked the first) that 
> get asked 
> > > by all new members. Remember the two old guys on the muppet show? 
> > > There are close to a thousand of us here. What you have just been 
> > > through is sort of an initiation ceremony that most new members go
> > > through. The HTML thing is a combination of netiquette and
> > > the fact that some members pay by the byte and have slow
> > > connections. Besides the "read the archives" chant from
> > > almost every member you will encounter the following
> > > responses to questions that you will ask over the next few months.
> > >
> > > 1) Read the archives  (stock answer for any question for which we 
> > > may or may not have the answer)
> > >
> > > 2) Check Texereau, it is part of the requisite book list
> > >
> > > 3) Don't read Texereau, it is an outdated fascist novel
> > >
> > > 4) The answer is in Ingalls Book 2
> > >
> > > 5) Read the archives (I'm sure someone asked this same 
> question back 
> > > in
> > > '95)
> > >
> > > 6) Grind more worry less (actually very true and valuable)
> > >
> > > 7) Verify the secondary size with Newt
> > >
> > > 8) Don't use Newt, it doesn't give a true representation
> > >
> > > 9) Read the archives (Did I mention this yet?)
> > >
> > > 10) No it can't be done, Peter Hoffenstoffer tried that 
> back in 98 
> > > and the mirror suffered from stig and potatoe chipping (check the 
> > > archives)
> > >
> > > 11) Yes it works, Peter fixed it with a new mirror cell and 
> > > used/eliminated the sling in '99 (read the archives)
> > >
> > > And yes there is a Cabal in the ATM list, the proof is that they 
> > > deny the presence of the Cabal. Why would they deny the 
> presence if 
> > > it didn't exist?  <VBG> Pushing glass and making 
> telescopes is a zen 
> > > like pursuit, think back to the '70s and the show Kung-Fu 
> "Can you 
> > > snatch the pebble from my
> > > hand..."   Welcome to the list Grasshopper.
> > >
> > > Hopefully none have been offended.
> > >
> > > George Anderson  (who hasn't made enough mirrors to be 
> allowed to be
> > > curmudgenly)
> > > Montreal Canada
> > >
> > > Clear skies and good health
> > >
> > > Joe Harman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I really appreciate those who help here on this list... So
> > > thank you
> > > > to all of you... I've got a couple of really great
> > > recommendations...
> > > > I will be very honest about this, this list is extremely
> > > picky... NO
> > > > HTML Mail... Search the archives before you post.... So
> > > before I get
> > > > chewed out anymore, I am asking that someone please send me
> > > a link to
> > > > the guidelines for this mail list... And to the archives so I 
> > > > don't accidentally offend anyone anymore... The site I got this
> > > email list
> > > > from listed no guidelines or archives.
> > > >
> > > > The majordomo response should include these guidelines when 
> > > > someone subscribes. All I did was ask a question... I don't 
> > > > deserve to get rude emails from people. The topic of this email 
> > > > list is Amateur Telescope Makers, so I was thinking 
> people would 
> > > > be a
> > > little more open
> > > > to the fact that there could be a beginner here.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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