Justin,

Thank you for you replies, I have decided to convert the whole site to
XHTML, for compatability. However, I am unable to view the site through my
phones WAP browser, does this mean XHTML is only compatible with PC's and
PDA's? I have validadted the code at http://validator.w3.org ...

Thanks for your help


"Justin French" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 07:46  PM, Tom Rogers wrote:
>
> > From my experience css is even more unreliable than user agent being
> > set and all
> > browser producers seem to have their own idea of what a standard is
> > supposed to
> > look like as well. At least with table layouts most of the current
> > desktop
> > browsers will make a half decent try. With companies like Netscape and
> > Microsoft
> > providing browsers you should stay away from strict anything is my
> > advice :)
>
> It depends what you're aiming for.  If you're aiming for pixel perfect
> display on the usual browsers, great -- go for tables and the usual
> hacks.  But in the meantime you're sacrificing forwards compatibility
> for backwards compatibility, making your site hugely inaccessible,
> causing huge ongoing development costs (update the hacks to support
> newer browsers and devices), etc etc.
>
> What's the point in developing three or more sites (WAP, PDA, Desktop)
> when one can do the same, with a few SMALL sacrifices.
>
> As a bonus, you're developing HTML for EVERYONE, not turning away
> ANYONE, and you're saving your client some money.
>
>
> Anyway, this is getting a little OT :)  You're entitled to do things
> your way, and so am I... the $'s and accessibility are making my
> decisions for me.
>
>
>
> > The ideal way of detecting a wap browser is through the accepted mime
> > types from
> > the request header but I am not sure if that info is passed on by PHP.
> >
> > You could try
> >
> > <?
> > $headers = width: 300px;;
> > print_r($headers);
> > <?
> > and see what is supplied under accept with various devices
> >
> > You need to look for something like this:
> >
> > text/vnd.wap.wml for .wml files (WML source files)
> > application/vnd.wap.wmlc for .wmlc files (WML compiled files)
> > text/vnd.wap.wmlscript for .wmls files (WMLScript source files)
> > application/vnd.wap.wmlscriptc for .wmlsc files (WMLScript compiled
> > files)
> > image/vnd.wap.wbmp for .wbmp files (wireless bitmaps)
> >
>
> Nice idea!
>
> Justin

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