Hello, on 07/03/2006 05:22 PM Jay Paulson said the following: >>>> I'd like to get some feedback on what the list thinks is a good template >>>> engine other than smarty. >>>> >>>> I'd also like to do some quick prototyping using a PHP framework does >>>> anyone >>>> have any recommendations for one that is easy to pick up and run with? >>>> >>>> Finally, does anyone have any suggestions for a good PHP database >>>> abstraction library? >>> You may want to take a look at this post for a few recommendations: >>> >>> http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/52-Recommended-PHP-frameworks.html >> That is a nice sales pitch Manuel but takes bit of digesting. >> >> Jay - This is a 'how long is a piece of string' type question. So there >> are as many answers as there are developers here ;) >> >> I've only ever used Smarty - and not seen anything yet to replace it. >> >> PDO is being pushed as a DB Abstraction library, but it only 'abstracts' >> the calls to PHP, it does nothing to abstract the SQL if you want a >> truly generic solution, if you need one, but if you don't then why >> bother with abstraction ;) > > Thinking about this paragraph above makes me wonder if with that way of > looking at it would one need a template engine? For example, why not just > separate the business logic and the HTML as much as possible and then only > imbed PHP in HTML to display the variables (<?= $var ?>)?? Then at the end > of your PHP code that does all the logic just have include() calls to the > .php files you want to parse and pass all the variables you got with your > business logic above the include calls? Hm. Just a thought.
You think like that because you work alone or with other PHP developers. The truth is that good PHP developers are often not good Web (page) designers, and good Web designers are not good developers. Therefore it makes sense to split the Web page design work from PHP programming work. Smarty templates are easier to learn by Web designers than PHP. They do not need to know PHP. Furthermore, it is not a good idea to leave Web designers that does not know PHP very well to write PHP code as they may write insecure code and you will have to double the work by auditing the PHP based templates. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
