What's truly amazing is that they apparently are unaware of the Nusphere
distro. Even a total dolt can install apache, mysql, perl, and php on a
windows box in minutes. I've done it on three (98 and NT) so far and it is
as simple as put the CD in the machine, fire it up, click on a couple of
boxes and you're done. About 15 minutes total vs 60 minutes for my last
windows upgrade. We install it the old fashioned way at work and it does
take longer, but you can customize the install.
Fred Steinkopf
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maxim Maletsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Tyrone Mills'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PHP List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:35 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] PC MAG article - what a crap!
> http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2711724,00.html
>
> ...this is a total crap.
>
> I could not stop going from hysteric laughs to schizophrenetic smiles
> reading this...
>
> Really, the technology is not the same and finds it's best users in
> appropriate fields. Apparently these editors love Windowz for wizards and
> are of a conservative idea that 'paid' things are better because who sold
> them is responsible for the support.
>
> bull[\.]*t!
>
> I don't think all these M$ things will survive for longer then 3 more
years.
> Nobody thinks, nor even Billy. I personally met him a month ago on a press
> conference in Tokyo - he was here because of X-Box, but many think his
point
> is the inability of keeping the monopoly any further, so he now expands
> Microsoft's area of expertise. I truly believe Gates would have some long
> thoughts answering why he thinks Microsoft Windows will stay 'hard'
against
> Linux Mandrake (or other well developed Open Source OS) in future.
>
> And then, only then, when Linux and other Open (and some not-open) Sources
> will get into a monopoly balance, the publications will start comparing a
> larger number of Servers, Platforms and programming technologies giving
the
> right credit to PHP rather then say to $COLD FUSION$ because of it got
> 'WYSIWIYG tool for front-end interface'.
>
> They said you have to be an expert to set PHP on Linux, SURE YOU HAVE
TO!!!
> After all, you need a root password!!! Who, in the name of god, will ever
> give you the superuser password for production server if you know a
d[\.]*k
> of Apache/Linux???
>
> On windowz is the same: an MCSE knows how to set server's environment, and
I
> think he'd make the SAPI working!
>
> So only PHP beginners remain in trouble.
> Well, not exactly. As soon as they discover the mailing lists, forums,
> online tutorials and join the community they soon become more sure in
> themselves and go wild with development, becoming something more then
> webmasters in a very few time.
> Is that possible with CF, ASP?
>
> These writers are just too stupid to understand and cover this technology.
> They need an extended and capable to discover the alternatives
understanding
> of the web technologies.
>
> Cheers,
> Maxim Maletsky,
> PHPBeginner.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tyrone Mills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:53 AM
> To: PHP List
> Subject: RE: [PHP] PC MAG article
>
>
> If you can stand to read the whole article (I barely could), BEA declined
to
> participate. The article is nothing but worthless tripe, BEA is probably
> better off for having been mentioned only in passing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Charette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 5:55 PM
> To: PHP List
> Subject: Re: [PHP] PC MAG article
>
>
> Considering Websphere/EJB was mentioned ...
>
> Where's the BEA Weblogics review ????
>
>
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