looks like I didn't get the question. I thought he's asking how to start a project. to start to learn php of course you don't need paper and pencil. books, online tutorials, php.net and time. though, for a new project (if you never did similar before and if you don't already have the code you can reuse), a sketch/outline of the application's architecture/structure with a paper and a pencil is time saving.
:)

-afan


tedd wrote:
At 9:59 PM +0200 4/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and yes, I (still) use paper and pencil because never find good app for
it. if you can recommend - I'll be more than happy to use it and stop
wasting paper (agree with you on "poor tree" :D)

-afan

Pencil and paper? What's that?

I had a good friend who said -- "A program is nothing more than three steps: input; calculation; and display." I've always found that's a good start.

tedd


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