On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 10:14 -0500, Edward Vermillion wrote: > On Apr 13, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > [snip] > > > > > I noticed your site isn't a pixel perfect layout. Probably why you > > haven't had to tear at your face very hard with CSS :) That whole > > box-model issue becomes a great deal more elastic when you have some > > fudge room. > > > > [snip] > > > I use my templating engine, I can wrap as many tags as I please into a > > compound custom tag with attributes that expand into the dirty > > details. > > This also provides a great deal of flexibility later when CSS support > > improves, to replace the dirty tables ;) I do prefer CSS, but having > > done pixel perfect layouts, I know where things break down. > > <rant> > > And here-in lies the problem with most web designers/coders who think > they *have* to have tables... > > "Pixel perfect layouts" are *not* what the web is about. A browser > window is not a piece of paper and until "web designers" get that > through their heads then we will all have trouble making things work. > No matter what the browser makers do. > > Designers need to start designing for the medium and not for what > they want the medium to be, or what medium fits their knowledge base > or familiar problem space. > > You don't have to have that much control over a web page... loosen up > a bit and let things be what they are. > > </rant> > > Sorry, that just builds up over time and needs to be let out every > once in a while....
Sure, but designers head the beck and call of paying customers. Just like we coders do. Sometime you just can't win the argument with a suit :) BTW, why can't a browser window be pixel perfect? I think you're dwelling on what you think it should be, and what others want it to be. The more interactive the web becomes, the more we see web applications mimicking desktop solutions, the more we need pixel perfection. Regardless of whether you think the web should be used for these kinds of applications is irrelevant, because others do think it can and should be used in this way. Throwing cups of water back into the ocean to prevent the tide from coming in just doesn't work. Cheers, Rob. -- .------------------------------------------------------------. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :------------------------------------------------------------: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `------------------------------------------------------------' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
