Lester Caine wrote:
James McLean wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:26 PM,  <clanc...@cybec.com.au> wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:39:03 +0100, joc...@iamjochem.com (Jochem Maas) wrote:
as for using IE6 ... WTF ... you do realise this is essentially a web 
developers mailing list right?
The interesting things in my websites go on behind-the-scenes, in the PHP, and 
produce
relatively straightforward HTML. I have avoided the well-known bugs in IE6, and 
think my
webpages display correctly on any of the modern browsers, but as Microsoft 
delights in
rearranging everything in every update, and making the features you need ever 
harder to
find, I stick to IE6 for my everyday work.
Wow. Ignoring the issue that IE6 will soon be EOL (finally), and
ignoring how bad it is at handling anything even remotely modern, your
workstation must be a haven for virii, spyware and malware... IE6 has
just about the worst security track record out there, at least on the
desktop anyway.

If you must have IE6 for whatever reason, stick it on Windows
installed on a VM and upgrade your main workstation browser to
something more recent. At least a VM can be backed up at a known-good
point and if^H^Hwhen it gets compromised it can be deleted easily and
replaced with your backup.

I'll make it easy for you: http://www.getfirefox.com :)

Since a large section of our USER base is still tied to W2k and does not have access to install other software, the call for IE6 to die is STILL somewhat premature! What is needed is someone to kick M$ to sort the mess out by at least allowing IE8 to install on W2k machines, rather than telling hundreds of councils they have to replace ALL their computers :(

The alternative is to convince M$ controlled councils that Firefox is OK and that using it will not invalidate their contracts - but then all the work currently being done to convert legacy setups to work with *IE7* would have to be scrapped and reworked on Firefox. Many of my customers have only just got funds to start an *IE7* roll out! Redoing all that work for IE8 is yet another problem for which money is not available.

Microsoft WANTS them to spend money upgrading... that's the point of questionable feature enhancement and the breaking of file formats so that older software can't read it properly. If the councils really want to save money they'd move to Linux. As for "all the work being done to convert legacy setups to work with IE7"... this is the WRONG philosophy... it should be "all the work being done to convert legacy systems to work with Standards" with a little bit of "with IE7 compatibility layer on top". The target is standards, that way in the future they aren't locked in still.

Cheers,
Rob.
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