> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Lind [mailto:peter.e.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 6:24 AM
> To: Tommy Pham
> Cc: php-general List
> Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
> 
> On Friday, 10 December 2010, Tommy Pham <tommy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> * snup *
> 
> > The way I see it is this:
> >
> > 1) Thorough understanding of the problem: needs of the client/company,
> > programming language in use, etc.
> > 2) Thorough understanding of the objective of the application: answer
> > the needs, capable of possible future growth/expandability, etc.
> > 3) Well thought out application design to resolve the above 2:
> > framework, mixed, or no framework.
> >
> > Thus, IMHO, caching is needed when one fails to fully meet the above 3
> > such as when the user clicks on any link in the browser, it should
> > take no more than 3 seconds for the browser's status to be 'Done',
> > provided that the user isn't on some 56k modem connection ;).
> 
> Always use a cache. Not using a cache means you've misunderstood some
> fundamental points.
> 
> Regards
> Peter
> 
> 
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I understand cache well, both the benefits (save DB trip) and shortfalls 
(outdated by DB, management, etc.).  Most of the apps that I've seen so far 
used cache to solve a problem that shouldn't happen in the 1st place.  For 
example, during recent my quest looking PHP MVC framework and sample apps, I 
saw OpenCart, an e-commerce app based on custom MVC framework.  Installed it 
for a test run.  It looks good and seems to perform well with the included 
sample data.  Then I filled up some more sample data: over 3000 categories, 
over 2000 manufacturers, over 300,000 products.  No other changes made such 
specials, features, etc.  Although the app supports i18n, the sample data is 
just one language for a decent DB size of about 100MB.  The app took over 30 
seconds to respond for any link.  Then I disable the cache and began debugging. 
 I made 1 minor addition to the DB and 1 minor change in the code base - parts 
on 1 line - I shorten the response time by about 10 seconds.  What I just did 
proved my 2nd and 3rd point :)

Regards,
Tommy


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