On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Levi Morrison <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Hannes Magnusson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Levi Morrison <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Commit: c036828cbd87a5977810c9cd4e099e91e6e14cd8
>> > Author: Levi Morrison <[email protected]> Wed, 23 Oct 2013
>> > 09:16:41 -0600
>> > Parents: 586bfaf0b8c04a77f4f72ee49b9f85dbb8217554
>> > Branches: master
>> >
>> > Link:
>> > http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commitdiff;h=c036828cbd87a5977810c9cd4e099e91e6e14cd8
>> >
>> > Log:
>> > Removed bold style on em; this is mostly important for the wiki, but
>> > always making 'italic' also bold is overwhelming.
>> >
>> > Changed paths:
>> > M styles/site.css
>> >
>> >
>> > Diff:
>> > diff --git a/styles/site.css b/styles/site.css
>> > index e5351ea..b4a7373 100644
>> > --- a/styles/site.css
>> > +++ b/styles/site.css
>> > @@ -197,7 +197,6 @@ ul li {
>> > }
>> >
>> > em {
>> > - font-weight: bold;
>> > font-style: italic;
>> > }
>> >
>>
>>
>> Since docbook is extremely semantical, it misses to differentiate
>> italic rendering and bold.
>> There is however an option (role="bold") that can be used, defeating
>> the purpose of the semantics, and not used at all (until mysqlnd*
>> started using it outof the blue for unknown reason, probably edited in
>> a docbook editor?) - which is why it was never implemented.
>>
>> The rendering expectations is italic and/or bold[1]. We have always
>> done the "and" as it has been used in ways a "heading" would be
>> expected. The example you posted is excellent example of that, where a
>> more semantically meaning markup may have been more useful :/
>>
>> I think we still need it in tables, at the very least, due to our abuse of
>> it.
>>
>> -Hannes
>>
>> [1] Formatted inline. Emphasized text is traditionally presented in
>> italics or boldface. A role attribute of bold or strong is often used
>> to generate boldface, if italics is the default presentation.
>
>
> Traditionally, bold text is used very rarely in body content because of how
> much it stands out. Bold text is used to highlight headings and things like
> pull-quotes; italic text is used to emphasize content in the body. In HTML
> this would translate as headings being bold and emphasis in body content
> (<em>) would be italic. This is why the default style for em in browsers is
> italic but not bold, and headers are bold but not italic.
>
> I think the best option for now is to revert my change until I can deal with
> the effects in the documentation since we've relied on the bold behavior so
> much. Anyone know where the best place to put a wiki-specific style is?
>
.dokuwiki em {..} ?
-Hannes
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