From:             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: independency
PHP version:      4.3.0RC1
PHP Bug Type:     Documentation problem
Bug description:  description of MAX_FILE_SIZE should be clear

[quote from php manual
 mian>>feature>>handling file uploads]

The MAX_FILE_SIZE hidden field must precede the file input field and its
value is the maximum filesize accepted. The value is in bytes. 

[warnning]
warning: The MAX_FILE_SIZE is advisory to the browser. It is easy to
circumvent this maximum. So don't count on it that the browser obeys you
wish! The PHP-settings for maximum-size, however, cannot be fooled.  
[/warnning]
[/quote]
it doesn't tell how php check the size
1 year ago I 1st time read it, and re-read it today, finally get what it
means

document should tell more to programmers:
----------
1. user's file size is checked at the beginning of transfer before upload
is done
2. hard limit: file size is check against "PHP-settings for maximum-size",
file which larger will be refused
3. then, soft limit: check against "MAX_FILE_SIZE" if there is one hidden
value before input file field
4. when transfer done, php-script is active, manage to store the
uploaded-file, however, value of MAX_FILE_SIZE easy to circumvent, and
cannot be trust on, your php-script should re-check the uploaded file size
as u wish.
FAQ: u said MAX_FILE_SIZE is untrustable, why we should make use of it?
why not use only php-script to check filesize?
answer: in current php, handling of upload file, scirpt is not active,
thus, cannot check filesize until transfer of upload file is done.
MAX_FILE_SIZE get ability to soft limit the filesize before user have to
wait too long.
----------

this is what i comprehend :)
yes, it's too long, hope u guys can refine it, and put into new version of
phpmanual
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Not developer issue:        http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=20570&r=support
Expected behavior:          http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=20570&r=notwrong
Not enough info:            http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=20570&r=notenoughinfo
Submitted twice:            http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=20570&r=submittedtwice
register_globals:           http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=20570&r=globals
PHP 3 support discontinued: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=20570&r=php3
Daylight Savings:           http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=20570&r=dst
IIS Stability:              http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=20570&r=isapi


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