On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 18:37, Daniel Egeberg <degeb...@php.net> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 18:21, Alex Cartwright <alexc...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> Not to sound funny, though where are you statistics for the 'commonplace >> definition' of kilobyte? Without that I don't think that is really a valid >> point to ignore such an obvious bug. > > This mailing list is not a scientific journal; I don't need to conduct > any research before I make claims. You're the one disputing the > definition in the manual, so you are free to collect statistics. > > Windows, the most widely deployed desktop OS, agrees that 1 kilobyte = > 1024 bytes, so does Nautilus, the file manager in Gnome. I can't speak > for OS X, but I'm pretty sure it uses that definition as well. > >> Yes you can create what ever definitions you want, however what you should >> not >> do is change the value of those already existing definitions that are clearly >> outlined by standards. The International System of Units clearly, very >> clearly, states that kilo = 1000, not 1024. > > Indeed they do, but "byte" is not an SI base unit. SI is only > concerned with length, mass, time, electric current, thermodynamic > temperature, amount of substance and luminous intensity. Nor is "byte" > even included in the list of non-SI units for use in SI [1]. > > SI does not have a monopoly on "kilo". I think you'll find the entire > English language (and indeed most other natural languages) "broken" if > you wish to assert that a word or a word prefix can only be used in > one single context. > >> I really don't see what the resistance is about of changing the word in the >> documentation from 'Kilobyte' to 'Kibibyte'. I'm not saying you need to >> change >> PHPs definition if 'K' at all, simply to change 'Kilo' 'Mega' and 'Giga' in >> the documentation to reflect what they really mean. > > As Johannes said in the bug report, because it contradicts the most > widespread definition and thus contradicts what most users would > expect. > > [1] http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter4/table6.html > > -- > Daniel Egeberg >
Didn't see that you only replied to me. Please use "reply all" so the mailing list gets a copy of the reply as well. -- Daniel Egeberg
