Hi Sandeep and Andreas!
Thanks for your support :)
Andreas, thanks for your great inputs! It's indeed what we are looking forward.
With everyone showing support and interest really is a motivation booster and
now i'm preparing myself to next stage which is synthesizing the Verilog code
to be used on actual FPGA board. I already found a good candidate for the FPGA
board but if you want to see, these are my line-ups, sorry its in Chinese :(
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BR,
Geo
On Monday, September 22, 2014 5:33 PM, "andr...@itship.ch" <andr...@itship.ch>
wrote:
Once more, congratulation! This is awesome!
I really believe this is/will be huge.
1. kickstarter
Afaik you need a US tax number to use kickstarter, so either a us citizen
oder better a us company is necessary. It's possible to do a setup by
creating a cheap delaware company, I know guys who did it, but its quite a
bit complex for non-us people.
So I would recommend using another platform, or even first trying to use
this mailling list or a custom website to set a crowd project up from
this.
Maybe you don't even need a crowdfunding project, if we find enough people
this way?
2. PilMCU applications
Beside the wearable/mobile/robotics applications (go for it!), I'm
personally interested in picolisp server hardware. Maybe producing
something similiar to Intel NUC
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Unit_of_Computing) ?
So extendable RAM plus storage plus network plug, and we would have a fine
little box for all kind of server applications. No OS overhead, no stack
security issues (heartbleed), just beautiful picolisp.
This would also allow to produce/sell custom solutions, e.g. put software
on cheap tiny hardware box, sell the device, similiar to kinko
(https://kinko.me/the-kinko-project/)
3. OpenSource legitimacy
About this one I'm not sure, its more a philosophical thing, maybe I got
it wrong:
With traditional soft- and hardware, there is the problem, that even with
a copy of the source code of a certain application, we can't be sure that
the actual running instance of the application uses the same source code
and didn't get altered by a malware-injecting compiler.
Let's say we have hardware which interprets picolisp directly, and does
nothing else (which one can proof about a certain piece of hardware).
And picolisp applicaiton is always readable clear text source code, so
isn't this actually an instance were we can "proof" WHAT the hardware and
software of this thing is doing, even when running?
> Good morning everyone!
>
> Wow! thanks for all this nice feedback's, a nice way to greet a morning
> weekend :)
>
> Btw sorry if i cannot individually reply on each topic, but let me share
> my thoughts on this two topic that is recently on the table:
> 1. Kickstarter or Indigogo
> 2. Verilog source code availability
>
>
> 1. Actually this is what i suggested to Alex for we had a customer here
> before that we produced his product from kicksarter. But from what i
> understand, inorder to register our project we need a video to show the
> early progress of the project. Its either we can make a video showing the
> verilog simulator running OR emulator in C running? but i think it would
> be great to show an actual FPGA board running the pilMCU, this option
> would be more attractive right? so my primary goal as of now is to get an
> FPGA board from online and start synthesize the code for the actual FPGA
> hardware. Anyone with experience with FPGA is welcome to provide their
> inputs ;)
>
> 2. This i need to discuss with Alex first. But if you ask me, actually
> there were good points shared here, but i think its still too early too
> release the code for it is still at design stage and as much as possible,
> me and Alex would like to stabilize the core first and also to have a
> robust kit first. If anyone wants to try the machine, as of the moment the
> best way is to run the 'emu' version :) but don't worry, picolisp
> community will surely be the first to have an actual hands-on once the
> actual hardware is ready ;)
>
> Great weekend everyone, cheers!!
>
> BR,
> Geo
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:46 AM, Thorsten Jolitz
> <tjol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Christophe Gragnic
> <christophegrag...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Loyall, David
>> <david.loy...@nebraska.gov> wrote:
>>> If you sell a FPGA configured to be an open source Lisp CPU, I'll
>>> buy a few
>>
>> Someone on Hacker News: «where's the kickstarter page? I want a few of
>> those.»
>> I'd buy a few too.
>
> Thats the idea, I would say: buy the chips and support the project. Give
> them time to prepare a nice kickstarter project. Enjoy the opportunity
> to support a wonderful free software project to become not only a
> technical but an economic success too.
>
> You ask them to give away their most important 'capital' to the public
> before even starting the business. Not a good advice, really ...
>
> --
> cheers,
> Thorsten
>
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