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the tempsite address is http://www.zeroimage.com/pinholeday/pdentry.htm, if you have any comments about the design, the contents, please feel free to let us know. We need all your helps. Thanks Zernike ----- Original Message ----- From: <pinhole-discussion-request@p at ???????> To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:46 AM Subject: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #231 - 13 msgs > Send Pinhole-Discussion mailing list submissions to > pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/pinhole-discussion > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pinhole-discussion-request@p at ??????? > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??????? > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pinhole-Discussion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Could someone help me? (Kellie Deem) > 2. Re: Could someone help me? (Jeff Dilcher) > 3. Re: Could someone help me? (George L Smyth) > 4. Re: Could someone help me? (Guy Glorieux) > 5. Re: Could someone help me? (G.Penate) > 6. Re: Could someone help me? (Tom Miller) > 7. RE: Could someone help me? (Andy Schmitt) > 8. Re: Could someone help me? (James Kellar) > 9. Re: Could someone help me? (Stewart Woodruff) > 10. Re: Could someone help me? (Stewart Woodruff) > 11. Re: Could someone help me? (Tina Martin) > 12. Re: Could someone help me? (norl...@aol.com) > 13. Re: Could someone help me? (Kellie Deem) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Kellie Deem" <kd...@gonzaga.edu> > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:06:50 -0800 > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A635.ECA52FA0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I am doing a project for my photography class and I am going ot make a = > pinhole camera. I was researching some galleries and I came across a = > picture of a man, whose head was gone. How did they do that? Does it = > have something to do with the time?=20 > > Kellie > kde...@hotmail.com=20 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A635.ECA52FA0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am doing a project for my photography = > class and I=20 > am going ot make a pinhole camera. I was researching some = > galleries and I=20 > came across a picture of a man, whose head was gone. How did they = > do=20 > that? Does it have something to do with the = > time? </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kellie</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial = > size=3D2>kde...@hotmail.com</FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A635.ECA52FA0-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:47:55 -0500 (EST) > From: Jeff Dilcher <dilc...@cueva.com> > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > > > Yes, this is known as cranial reciprocity failure. > Briefly stated, the subject's head size varies > in proportion to the length of the time of the > exposure, up until a certain point, after which > the subject's head will be removed from the photo > altogether. > > Try using faster film in order to keep from decapitating > your subjects. Or, use a flash. > > > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Kellie Deem wrote: > > > I am doing a project for my photography class and I am going ot make a pinhole camera. I was researching some galleries and I came across a picture of a man, whose head was gone. How did they do that? Does it have something to do with the time? > > > > Kellie > > kde...@hotmail.com > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:59:12 -0800 (PST) > From: George L Smyth <glsm...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > > --- Kellie Deem <kd...@gonzaga.edu> wrote: > > I am doing a project for my photography class and I am going ot make a > > pinhole camera. I was researching some galleries and I came across a picture > > of a man, whose head was gone. How did they do that? Does it have something > > to do with the time? > > > > Kellie > > kde...@hotmail.com > > > > Without seeing the picture, it is impossible to tell. However, I am going to > assume that his head was moving, so there would be no clear image of it. > > Cheers - > > george > > ===== > Handmade Photographic Images > http://members.home.net/hmpi/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:43:41 -0500 > From: Guy Glorieux <guy.glori...@sympatico.ca> > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > > > Jeff Dilcher wrote: > > > Yes, this is known as cranial reciprocity failure. > > Briefly stated, the subject's head size varies > > in proportion to the length of the time of the > > exposure, up until a certain point, after which > > the subject's head will be removed from the photo > > altogether. > > Jeff, > > This is a new one to me! I knew of it in its variant where the head becomes "inflated" in ratio to the square of the photographer's ego multiplied by the length of the exposure time... -:)) > In this case, the head is also removed from the photo but it tends to be a much more sloppy process! > > Guy > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "G.Penate" <pen...@home.com> > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:38:36 -0500 > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kellie Deem > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > > I am doing a project for my photography class and I am going ot make > > a pinhole camera. I was researching some galleries and I came across > > a picture of a man, whose head was gone. > > The typical case of the "big head, big ego" man whose head couldn't fit > through the pinhole. I believe some "rich, wealthy" people can't fit > through, not even, a needle's eye!, let alone a pinhole, they just don't > register at all, as if they are non existant.......weird....weird indeed. > Now, a camel, that's another story, that's a piece of cake to get them > imaged through a needle's eye, head, legs, everything!! > > > How did they do that? > > Does it have something to do with the time? > > Give us the link and someone here will figure out exactly "How they do > that". > > Guillermo > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: "Tom Miller" <twmil...@mr.net> > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:14:45 -0600 > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0A669.52DBFE60 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Kellie, > > It is hard to know what happened without seeing the picture. Probably = > his head was moving; he may have been rolling it around during the = > entire exposure, maybe to make his head disappear. One day last winter = > I took a picture of a goose that was standing on ice about six or eight = > feet from the boardwalk that goes across a swamp in the local nature = > center. The goose stood still for the entire 1' 45" exposure, but kept = > pecking at the ice the whole time. It is the only wildlife pinhole = > photo I've ever made, and it is of a headless goose. > > Tom > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Kellie Deem=20 > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????=20 > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:06 PM > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > > > I am doing a project for my photography class and I am going ot make a = > pinhole camera. I was researching some galleries and I came across a = > picture of a man, whose head was gone. How did they do that? Does it = > have something to do with the time?=20 > > Kellie > kde...@hotmail.com=20 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0A669.52DBFE60 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kellie,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is hard to know what happened = > without seeing the=20 > picture. Probably his head was moving; he may have been rolling it = > around=20 > during the entire exposure, maybe to make his head disappear. One = > day last=20 > winter I took a picture of a goose that was standing on ice about = > six or=20 > eight feet from the boardwalk that goes across a swamp in the local = > nature=20 > center. The goose stood still for the entire 1' 45" exposure, but = > kept=20 > pecking at the ice the whole time. It is the only wildlife pinhole = > photo=20 > I've ever made, and it is of a headless goose.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> > <DIV=20 > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > black"><B>From:</B>=20 > <A title=3dkd...@gonzaga.edu href=3D"mailto:kd...@gonzaga.edu";>Kellie = > Deem</A>=20 > </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 > title=3Dpinhole-discussion@p at ???????=20 > = > href=3D"mailto:pinhole-discussion@p at ???????">pinhole-discussion@pinhole= > .com</A>=20 > </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 06, 2001 = > 2:06=20 > PM</DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [pinhole-discussion] = > Could=20 > someone help me?</DIV> > <DIV><BR></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am doing a project for my = > photography class and=20 > I am going ot make a pinhole camera. I was researching some = > galleries=20 > and I came across a picture of a man, whose head was gone. How = > did they=20 > do that? Does it have something to do with the = > time? </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kellie</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 > = > href=3D"mailto:kde...@hotmail.com";>kde...@hotmail.com</A></FONT> </D= > IV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0A669.52DBFE60-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > From: "Andy Schmitt" <aschm...@warwick.net> > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:17:45 -0500 > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > Guillermo > You're going to drive the poor kid nuts...... > andy > -----Original Message----- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??????? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???????]On Behalf Of G.Penate > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 6:39 PM > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kellie Deem > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > > I am doing a project for my photography class and I am going ot make > > a pinhole camera. I was researching some galleries and I came across > > a picture of a man, whose head was gone. > > The typical case of the "big head, big ego" man whose head couldn't fit > through the pinhole. I believe some "rich, wealthy" people can't fit > through, not even, a needle's eye!, let alone a pinhole, they just don't > register at all, as if they are non existant.......weird....weird indeed. > Now, a camel, that's another story, that's a piece of cake to get them > imaged through a needle's eye, head, legs, everything!! > > > How did they do that? > > Does it have something to do with the time? > > Give us the link and someone here will figure out exactly "How they do > that". > > Guillermo > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???????/discussion/ > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:25:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > From: James Kellar <pinh...@jameskellar.com> > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > --MS_Mac_OE_3066755131_29730_MIME_Part > Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > Sounds like a Jole Peter Witken photograph to me. I know he has taken a > couple of image where the mans head is gone. > > james > > on 3/6/01 3:06 PM, Kellie Deem at kd...@gonzaga.edu wrote: > > I came across a picture of a man, whose head was gone. > > > --MS_Mac_OE_3066755131_29730_MIME_Part > Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > > <HTML> > <HEAD> > <TITLE>Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me?</TITLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY> > Sounds like a Jole Peter Witken photograph to me. I know he has taken a cou= > ple of image where the mans head is gone.<BR> > <BR> > james<BR> > <BR> > on 3/6/01 3:06 PM, Kellie Deem at kd...@gonzaga.edu wrote:<BR> > <BR> > <FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I came across a picture of a man, whose h= > ead was gone.<BR> > </FONT></FONT> > </BODY> > </HTML> > > > --MS_Mac_OE_3066755131_29730_MIME_Part-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > From: "Stewart Woodruff" <stewo...@nh.ultranet.com> > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:03:37 -0500 > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C0A689.4BA7EA80 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Kellie, > > Look at the image on this web page: = > http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody/wetalkno.htm. In this pinhole = > photo my head "disappeared" because I left the scene to close the = > shutter and the bright light from the window behind me canceled out my = > head. The same technique was used on this page: = > http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody . > > Sincerely, > > Stew Woodruff > stewo...@mediaone.net > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C0A689.4BA7EA80 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Kellie,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Look at the image on this web page: <A=20 > href=3D"http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody/wetalkno.htm";>http://www.nh.= > ultranet.com/~stewoody/wetalkno.htm</A>. =20 > In this pinhole photo my head "disappeared" because I left the scene to = > close=20 > the shutter and the bright light from the window behind me canceled out = > my=20 > head. The same technique was used on this page: <A=20 > href=3D"http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody";>http://www.nh.ultranet.com/= > ~stewoody</A>=20 > .</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sincerely,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Stew Woodruff</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20 > href=3D"mailto:stewo...@mediaone.net";>stewo...@mediaone.net</A></FONT></D= > IV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C0A689.4BA7EA80-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > From: "Stewart Woodruff" <stewo...@nh.ultranet.com> > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:15:39 -0500 > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A68A.FA32BA20 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi again, Kellie! > > Try this web page instead of the first one: = > http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody/wetalkno.htm > > Have fun doing "painless decapitations!" > > Stew Woodruff > stewo...@mediaone.net > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A68A.FA32BA20 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi again, Kellie!</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Try this web page instead of the first one: <A = > > href=3D"http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody/wetalkno.htm";>http://www.nh.= > ultranet.com/~stewoody/wetalkno.htm</A></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Have fun doing "painless = > decapitations!"</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Stew Woodruff</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20 > href=3D"mailto:stewo...@mediaone.net";>stewo...@mediaone.net</A></FONT></D= > IV> > <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A68A.FA32BA20-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > From: "Tina Martin" <tima...@hotmail.com> > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 03:28:08 > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > Reminds me of a poem I learned when I was small, I think Robert Louis > Stevenson - goes something like - > > Yesterday, upon the stair > I met a man who wasn't there > He wasn't there again today > I wish, I wish he'd go away. > :-) > Tina > > >--- Kellie Deem <kd...@gonzaga.edu> wrote: > > > I am doing a project for my photography class and I am going ot make a > > > pinhole camera. I was researching some galleries and I came across a > >picture > > > of a man, whose head was gone. How did they do that? Does it have > >something > > > to do with the time? > > > > > > Kellie > > > kde...@hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > From: norl...@aol.com > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:06:39 EST > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > > In a message dated 3/7/01 1:26:55 AM, pinh...@jameskellar.com writes: > > << I came across a picture of a man, whose head was gone. >> > > My head has been gone for some time now, but should return any day now. K > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > From: "Kellie Deem" <kde...@hotmail.com> > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:42:52 > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > <html><DIV> > <P>The link to the picture in question is <A href="http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody/index.htm";>http://www.nh.ultranet .com/~stewoody/index.htm</A>. Thanks for all the responses</P></DIV>>From: "G.Penate" <pen...@home.com> > <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > <DIV></DIV>>To: <PINHOLE-DISCUSSION@PINHOLE.COM> > <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Could someone help me? > <DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:38:36 -0500 > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>>----- Original Message ----- > <DIV></DIV>>From: Kellie Deem > <DIV></DIV>>To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > I am doing a project for my photography class and I am going ot make > <DIV></DIV>> > a pinhole camera. I was researching some galleries and I came across > <DIV></DIV>> > a picture of a man, whose head was gone. > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>>The typical case of the "big head, big ego" man whose head couldn't fit > <DIV></DIV>>through the pinhole. I believe some "rich, wealthy" people can't fit > <DIV></DIV>>through, not even, a needle's eye!, let alone a pinhole, they just don't > <DIV></DIV>>register at all, as if they are non existant.......weird....weird indeed. > <DIV></DIV>>Now, a camel, that's another story, that's a piece of cake to get them > <DIV></DIV>>imaged through a needle's eye, head, legs, everything!! > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > How did they do that? > <DIV></DIV>> > Does it have something to do with the time? > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>>Give us the link and someone here will figure out exactly "How they do > <DIV></DIV>>that". > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>>Guillermo > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>>_______________________________________________ > <DIV></DIV>>Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > <DIV></DIV>>Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? > <DIV></DIV>>unsubscribe or change your account at > <DIV></DIV>>http://www.p at ???????/discussion/ > <DIV></DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com";>http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html> > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? > http://www.p at ???????/discussion/ > > End of Pinhole-Discussion Digest
