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All the best -----Original Message----- From: pinhole-discussion-request@p at ??????? <pinhole-discussion-request@p at ???????> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> List-Post: [email protected] Date: 17 January 2001 07:38 Subject: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #153 - 13 msgs >Send Pinhole-Discussion mailing list submissions to > pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/pinhole-discussion >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pinhole-discussion-request@p at ??????? > >You can reach the person managing the list at > pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??????? > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Pinhole-Discussion digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film packs & Pinholes... (Andy Schmitt) > 2. Re: Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film pa... ([email protected]) > 3. RE: Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film pa... (Andy Schmitt) > 4. Re: Over the razor's edge.. ([email protected]) > 5. New Pinhole Photo (Larry Fratkin) > 6. Re: New Pinhole Photo (Kosinski Family) > 7. Re: New Pinhole Photo (G.Penate) > 8. Re: Re: Over the razor's edge.. (G.Penate) > 9. A Lens? (Tom Miller) > 10. Re: New Pinhole Photo (Larry Fratkin) > 11. Re: A Lens? (Guy Glorieux) > 12. Re: New Pinhole Photo (Mike Vande Bunt) > 13. Re: A Lens? (Mike Vande Bunt) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: "Andy Schmitt" <[email protected]> >To: "pinhole discussion list" <Pinhole-Discussion@p at ???????> >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:14:04 -0500 >Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film packs & Pinholes... >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >While helping Jennifer work out a pinhole camera using a box & 600 film I >came up with the brain fart of using Velcro to attach the film pack to the >PH camera. There seemed to be enough room (if carefully placed) to have >Velcro & still be able to slide the pack in/out of the auto processor (read >Polaroid camera). >It works... >Using the skinny part of the Velcro, I placed about a 1" square where the >pull tab joins the film pack. There is also a strip about 1/4" wide & an >inch long on the rear of the pack between where the battery is exposed and >the edge of the pack (on both sides). > >With a 3 point attachment, the Velcro should have no problem holding the >pack firmly against the camera.... > >Of course I have already raced to Washington to Copyright, Patent, and >Register this idea so no one else can do it... except you all !! >Let me know how you make out... > >Have fun >andy schmitt > > A Happy, Healthy & prolific New Year to you > Andy Schmitt > > Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons > All opinions expressed are mine... > Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid > www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose.... > members.tripod.com/andycam1/ - photography and etc > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: [email protected] >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:21:38 EST >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film pa... >To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > >--part1_b7.a9af72e.27962372_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >In a message dated 1/16/01 2:18:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > >> Using the skinny part of the Velcro, I placed about a 1" square where the >> pull tab joins the film pack. There is also a strip about 1/4" wide & an >> inch long on the rear of the pack between where the battery is exposed and >> the edge of the pack (on both sides). >> >> With a 3 point attachment, the Velcro should have no problem holding the >> > >I thought of trying this but i was afraid it would leak light,good job!! > > Harry > <A HREF="http://www.figurefoto.com/";>Figurefoto.com</A> > >--part1_b7.a9af72e.27962372_boundary >Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ><HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#400040" SIZE=4 FACE="Carnegie" LANG="0"><I>In a message dated 1/16/01 2:18:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, ><BR>[email protected] writes: ><BR> ><BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></I> ><BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Using the skinny part of the Velcro, I placed about a 1" square where the ><BR>pull tab joins the film pack. There is also a strip about 1/4" wide & an ><BR>inch long on the rear of the pack between where the battery is exposed and ><BR>the edge of the pack (on both sides). ><BR> ><BR>With a 3 point attachment, the Velcro should have no problem holding the ><BR>pack firmly against the camera....</BLOCKQUOTE> ><BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#400040" SIZE=4 FACE="Carnegie" LANG="0"><I> ><BR>I thought of trying this but i was afraid it would leak light,good job!! ><BR> ><BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#800040" SIZE=5 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Viner Hand ITC" LANG="0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#004000" SIZE=5 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Viner Hand ITC" LANG="0">Harry </FONT><FONT COLOR="#004000" SIZE=5 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Vladimir Script" LANG="0"><B></I> ><BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#400040" SIZE=4 FACE="Tribune" LANG="0"></B><I> <A HREF="http://www.figurefoto.com/";>Figurefoto.com</A></I></FONT></HTML> > >--part1_b7.a9af72e.27962372_boundary-- > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >From: "Andy Schmitt" <[email protected]> >To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> >Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film pa... >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:45:43 -0500 >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C07FE4.266506C0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >remember tho, you have to take the pack out of the camera & stick it in the >"autopcessor" in the DARK...or it will leak light all over your pretty >picture.. ;~ ) >andy > -----Original Message----- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??????? >[mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???????]On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:22 PM > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid >600 film pa... > > > In a message dated 1/16/01 2:18:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Using the skinny part of the Velcro, I placed about a 1" square where >the > pull tab joins the film pack. There is also a strip about 1/4" wide & >an > inch long on the rear of the pack between where the battery is exposed >and > the edge of the pack (on both sides). > > With a 3 point attachment, the Velcro should have no problem holding the > pack firmly against the camera.... > > > I thought of trying this but i was afraid it would leak light,good job!! > > Harry > Figurefoto.com > >------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C07FE4.266506C0 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> ><META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> ><BODY> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D600113622-16012001>remember tho, you have to take the pack out = >of the=20 >camera & stick it in the "autopcessor" in the DARK...or it will leak = >light=20 >all over your pretty picture.. ;~ )</SPAN></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D600113622-16012001>andy</SPAN></FONT></DIV> ><BLOCKQUOTE> > <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = >face=3DTahoma=20 > size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 > pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???????=20 > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???????]<B>On Behalf Of=20 > </B>[email protected]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:22=20 > PM<BR><B>To:</B> pinhole-discussion@p at ???????<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: = > > [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film = > > pa...<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = >color=3D#400040=20 > face=3DCarnegie lang=3D0 size=3D4><I>In a message dated 1/16/01 = >2:18:44 PM Pacific=20 > Standard Time, <BR>[email protected] writes: <BR><BR></FONT><FONT=20 > color=3D#000000 face=3DArial lang=3D0 size=3D2 = >FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></I><BR> > <BLOCKQUOTE=20 > style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = >MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"=20 > TYPE=3D"CITE">Using the skinny part of the Velcro, I placed about a 1" = >square=20 > where the <BR>pull tab joins the film pack. There is also a = > strip=20 > about 1/4" wide & an <BR>inch long on the rear of the pack = >between where=20 > the battery is exposed and <BR>the edge of the pack (on both sides). = > > <BR><BR>With a 3 point attachment, the Velcro should have no problem = >holding=20 > the <BR>pack firmly against the = >camera....</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT=20 > color=3D#400040 face=3DCarnegie lang=3D0 size=3D4><I><BR>I thought of = >trying this but=20 > i was afraid it would leak light,good job!! <BR><BR></FONT><FONT = >color=3D#800040=20 > face=3D"Viner Hand ITC" lang=3D0 size=3D5 = >FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT"></FONT><FONT color=3D#004000=20 > face=3D"Viner Hand ITC" lang=3D0 size=3D5 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT">Harry = ></FONT><FONT=20 > color=3D#004000 face=3D"Vladimir Script" lang=3D0 size=3D5=20 > FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT"><B></I><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#400040 = >face=3DTribune lang=3D0=20 > size=3D4></B><I><A=20 > href=3D"http://www.figurefoto.com/";>Figurefoto.com</A></I></FONT>=20 ></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> > >------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C07FE4.266506C0-- > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >From: [email protected] >To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? >Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:36:16 +1200 >Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Over the razor's edge.. >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >Hi, >I am a novice "pin-holer" and this is my first posting. > >I have tried the following idea. I "glued" three pieces of shaving razor blade >to form a triangular aperture -- the "pin-hole". By adjusting the three pieces , >I got a small triangular aperture of the required pin-hole size.Guranteed clean >knife-edges !!! > >I used a magnifying glass to compare the razor "pin-hole" with a set of auto-mechanics >steel shims. I reckon my razor "pin-hole" is an equilateral hole with sides about >0.3 ~ 0.4 mm. > >The above assembly was mounted in a slotted lens cap of a 35mm SLR. > >My first picture, in bright sunlight, is such a "success" , that I am encouraged >to experiment further.I had to use a 20 sec exposure on 35 mm 100ASA colour negative. > > >Will put up the picture soon as I organise a web site. > >I look forward to your comments and suggestions > >Cheers !!! > >Devi Prasad > > >__________________________________________________ >Advertise with ZFREE - to find out more click below >http://www.zfree.co.nz/about-us/advert.html > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >From: "Larry Fratkin" <[email protected]> >To: "pinhole list" <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:39:32 -0800 >Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >Folks, > I have my first laser pinhole picture published at >http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html > >This was a laser drilled pinhole from Lenox Laser. The picture was my first >shot on a set of tests I was doing to dial in the film/pinhole/camera >combination. More to come. > >Larry > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >From: "Kosinski Family" <[email protected]> >To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:20:19 -0500 >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >Larry writes: >"I have my first laser pinhole picture published at >http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html > >Pretty fine image, Larry. Was it as easy as it seems to use the laser >pinhole? >Jim K > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >From: "G.Penate" <[email protected]> >To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:23:21 -0500 >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Larry Fratkin" <[email protected]> > >> Folks, >> I have my first laser pinhole picture published at >> http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html > >It looks as if it is a computer graphic generated image, very good Larry!! > > >Guillermo > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >From: "G.Penate" <[email protected]> >To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Over the razor's edge.. >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:26:01 -0500 >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> > >> Hi, >> I am a novice "pin-holer" and this is my first posting. >> >> I have tried the following idea. I "glued" three pieces of shaving razor >blade >> to form a triangular aperture -- > >That's an interesting idea, people have used blades to form slit, but this >us may be a first. > >> My first picture, in bright sunlight, is such a "success" , that I am >encouraged >> to experiment further.I had to use a 20 sec exposure on 35 mm 100ASA >colour negative. > >> I look forward to your comments and suggestions > >Look forward to seeing the image(s) > >Guillermo > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >From: "Tom Miller" <[email protected]> >To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:24:57 -0600 >Subject: [pinhole-discussion] A Lens? >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >Check the samples at www.dreamagon.com. They look a lot like zone >plate images. Hard to believe its a lens. > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 >From: "Larry Fratkin" <[email protected]> >To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:06:59 -0800 >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >Jim, > It was exactly like using other pinholes. The exposure always ends up >taking 1/2 to 1 more stop than my calculator shows - reciprocity? It came in >a nice plastic case with the size printed on it. The pinhole itself is >mounted on a very sturdy ring. > >Larry >-----Original Message----- >From: Kosinski Family <[email protected]> >To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> >Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:18 PM >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo > > >>Larry writes: >>"I have my first laser pinhole picture published at >>http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html >> >>Pretty fine image, Larry. Was it as easy as it seems to use the laser >>pinhole? >>Jim K >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >>Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? >>unsubscribe or change your account at >>http://www.p at ???????/discussion/ > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:58:16 -0500 >From: Guy Glorieux <[email protected]> >To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] A Lens? >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > > > >Tom Miller wrote: > >> Check the samples at www.dreamagon.com. They look a lot like zone >> plate images. Hard to believe its a lens. >> > >Tom, > >I hope that you are not about to slip back into lens photography... >-:)) > >Some of the pictures on the gallery are really beautiful (although >perhaps on the verge of beeing too much for my own particular taste), >but I agree with you that there is something of the Zoneplate qualities >in them. Then why would someone want to pay the prices shown (over 250 >Euros) when you can get a zoneplate for $15? Let's keep the secret well >covered... -:)) > >This said, I must confess that I recently purchased on eBay a vintage >"Adon" large format telephoto lens which I have not yet fully tested >(large format is no fun in sub-freezing weather) but which seems to have >some of the similar soft focus properties to this lens. One of the neat >feature of this lens is that it has a variable focal lens and a huuuuuge >coverage so that it will probably fit on my 11x14 field camera once I >get it all fixed up. But this is Out-of-topic for this group and >belongs to the Large Format group. I never even mentionned it... -:)) > >I wonder how others feel about that Dreamagon lens: gimmickrey or cool? >Check >http://www.dreamagon.com/sample.htm > >Best, > >Guy Glorieux > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 12 >Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:30:28 -0600 >From: Mike Vande Bunt <[email protected]> >To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >It will be interesting to see how it performs in a "flare" situation. >In theory, the walls of the pinhole will be perfectly smooth so >the flare should be more regular (less random) than a traditional >pinhole. How thin is the metal the pinhole was drilled in? (I ask >this because the main reason for the "sanding a dimple" method >of drilling a pinhole is to thin the metal so that the walls of the >hole are as short as possible.) > >Mike Vande Bunt > > >Larry Fratkin wrote: > >> Jim, >> It was exactly like using other pinholes. The exposure always ends up >> taking 1/2 to 1 more stop than my calculator shows - reciprocity? It came in >> a nice plastic case with the size printed on it. The pinhole itself is >> mounted on a very sturdy ring. >> >> Larry >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kosinski Family <[email protected]> >> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> >> Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo >> >> >Larry writes: >> >"I have my first laser pinhole picture published at >> >http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html >> > >> >Pretty fine image, Larry. Was it as easy as it seems to use the laser >> >pinhole? >> >Jim K >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >> >Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? >> >unsubscribe or change your account at >> >http://www.p at ???????/discussion/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >> Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? >> unsubscribe or change your account at >> http://www.p at ???????/discussion/ > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 13 >Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:24:44 -0600 >From: Mike Vande Bunt <[email protected]> >To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] A Lens? >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > >The February 2001 issue of Shutterbug magazine has a review of the >Dreamagon lens and some more sample photos. They look VERY >much like zone plate images, but the exposute times are quite a bit >shorter (so short that a Neutral Density filter may be needed in full >sun). As a releable way to get specific artistic effect, it's great. >BUT, >it's an expensive lens compared to even a commercially produced >zone plate. It also lacks the experimental quality that many pinholers >consider to be at the heart of the pinhole process. > >(N.B.: The Dreamagon web site still may list a US distributor, but >the distributor has gone ou of business. Photographers in the US >will need to order the lens direct from Germany.) > >Mike Vande Bunt > > >Tom Miller wrote: > >> Check the samples at www.dreamagon.com. They look a lot like zone >> plate images. Hard to believe its a lens. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >> Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? >> unsubscribe or change your account at >> http://www.p at ???????/discussion/ > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? >http://www.p at ???????/discussion/ > >End of Pinhole-Discussion Digest >
