With regard to the Polacolor 59 film, I think Tom already answered the 
question...but I've
used this film a lot, and it definitely has a real problem with color, 
specifically when
the exposure times get the least bit lengthy (more than 2 seconds!).  This film 
also tends
to have a blueish/greenish cast--no matter what.  Whenever I use it, I use an 
orange
filter, which solves that problem. And, as with any Polaroid film, be sure and 
check the
expiration date.  Polaroid really means it..  Hope this helps.

--Diana

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>   1. RE:zoneplate / pinhole camera (Martin White (FOA ILTL))
>   2. Polacolor 59 in a pinhole camera (ethereal art)
>   3. Re: Polacolor 59 in a pinhole camera (Tom Lindsay)
>   4. [Fwd: "51" Caddy] (Tom Lindsay)
>   5. OOps (Tom Lindsay)
>   6. Re: OOps (Jarred McCaffrey)
>   7. Re: OOps (Tom Lindsay)
>   8. New York meeting (ska...@aol.com)
>   9. New images (Thomas Harvey)
>   10. Re: New images (Jeff Spirer)
>   11. RE: Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera. (Soren Svensson)
>   12. RE: Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera. (Jeff Spirer)
>   13. RE: Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera. (Soren Svensson)
>   14. Re: New images (echinis...@gmx.de)
>   15. Re: New images (echinis...@gmx.de)
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>   17. Re: New images (Richard M. Koolish)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Martin White (FOA ILTL)" <ms.wh...@auckland.ac.nz>
> To: "'pinhole-discussion@p at ???????'" <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:10:49 +1300
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> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] RE:zoneplate / pinhole camera
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???????
> -----Original Message-----
> There's a site I've seen with a 4x5 camera with a zone plate and a pinhole .
> Price $349.  zone plate = .23mm pinole .010"
> www.qualitycamera.com Is this the one that was being requested?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 14:59:31 +0100 (WET DST)
> From: Pedro Goncalves <p...@mega.ist.utl.pt>
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re:[pinhole discussion] portuguese
> photographers
>
> Hi, emma...
>
> Replying to your email on portuguese photography museums...here is one
> you may find interesting...
>
> Instituto Portugues de Fotografia
> R. Damasceno Monteiro, 154-A
> Tel: (351) 21 816 51 30
>
> ...One other thing, when looking in search engines, my personal advice.
> use www.google.com
> This is no advertising, but that search engine really works!
>
> -------------------------
> Pedro Goncalves : p...@rnl.ist.utl.pt
>
> [The original message follows...]
> >hi
> >can any one help?
>
> >I am interested in finding websites (in english) of any photography
> >musuems within Portugal .
>
> >Can any give recomend anything?
> >search engines so far have found nothing usefull.
>
> >I would be very grateful for any help.
> >Thankyou
> >emma
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 00:59:27 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Mark D Roberts <mrobe...@pb.seflin.org>
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Cc: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera.
>
> Sometime ago someone posted a message with the address of a Zone
> Plate/Pinhole camera maker.
> I'm trying to find the site, I found it, but lost it when my computer
> crashed.
> It was not a Finney, but it was wood & sold for about $389.00.
> Can anyone help me????
> Thanking you in advance,
>
> Mark
>
> Mark D Roberts
> mrobe...@pbfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
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> Message: 6
> From: Dieter Bublitz <dieter.bubl...@bingo-ev.de>
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera.
> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 08:46:32 +0200
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> Mark,
>
> try http://www.zeroimage.com
>
> Maybe this is what you are looking for.
>
> Dieter
>
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 00:59:27 -0400 (EDT), Mark D Roberts
> <mrobe...@pb.seflin.org> wrote:
>
> >Sometime ago someone posted a message with the address of a Zone=20
> >Plate/Pinhole camera maker.
> >I'm trying to find the site, I found it, but lost it when my computer=20
> >crashed.
> >It was not a Finney, but it was wood & sold for about $389.00.
> >Can anyone help me????
> >Thanking you in advance,=20
> >
> >Mark
> >
>
> --=20
> Dieter's Lochkamera Seite: http://www.bingo-ev.de/~db106/index.htm
> Lochkamera-FAQ: http://www.bingo-ev.de/~db106/faq.htm
>
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> Message: 7
> From: brockha...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 09:02:50 EDT
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera.
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
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> From: "William Erickson" <erick...@ic.mankato.mn.us>
> To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera.
> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 08:32:48 -0500
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>
> This may not be what you're after, but Pinhole resource sells 4x5 pinhole or
> zoneplate leonardo models. Calumet photo.com lists a finney turret on a
> lensboard for ZoneVI view camera. I don't know any source for a combined
> pihole/zone plate camera that doesn't use Finney's turret.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark D Roberts <mrobe...@pb.seflin.org>
> To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> Cc: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 11:59 PM
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera.
>
> > Sometime ago someone posted a message with the address of a Zone
> > Plate/Pinhole camera maker.
> > I'm trying to find the site, I found it, but lost it when my computer
> > crashed.
> > It was not a Finney, but it was wood & sold for about $389.00.
> > Can anyone help me????
> > Thanking you in advance,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > Mark D Roberts
> > mrobe...@pbfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
> >
> >
> >
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> From: "ethereal art" <ethereal...@mindspring.com>
> To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:26:43 -0400
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> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Polacolor 59 in a pinhole camera
>
> +AD4-By the way, has anyone experimented with Polacolor 59 4x5 sheet film in 
> +AD4-a
> pinhole camera?  I have obtained good results using it in my press +AD4-camera
> but haven't had good results in my pinhole camera.  Does it not +AD4-work with
> extended exposure times?  Any input in this area would also +AD4-be welcome.
> +AD4-Thanks
> +AD4-Sincerely,
> +AD4-Andrew Sias
>
> Try turning your press camera into a pinhole camera... Make life easy+ACE-
> Rosanne
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:57:57 -0400
> From: Tom Lindsay <tlind...@erols.com>
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polacolor 59 in a pinhole camera
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> Rosanne,
>
> Go to a commercial studio lighting company and ask them for a "Lee filters" 
> swatch book
> of the gels they use for lighting. The swatch book will have just about every 
> filter
> you could experiment with.
> I shot some Polacolor 59 a long time ago and noticed that it did need 
> filtering, as
> almost everything had a bluish tint. Thinking about it now I'd use a filter 
> that would
> change your image  by at least half using the Tungsten conversion filter; 
> don't worry
> they are all marked. Play with the more yellow- yellow gold filters. Another 
> cool thing
> about the swatch book is that you can take a shot, let it develop and then 
> look through
> the filters at the photo until it looks right; and that's the filter to use. 
> It's like
> using filters to print color; that is if you've ever done that.
> Another cool thing to do is take some of the filter swatches out of the book 
> and cover
> a flash for a 35 mm camera; like a Vivitar 283. When you do this you can 
> paint with
> light in the early evening or even night.
> I hope this helps.
>
> "Keep on Pinholin'",
> Tom
>
> ethereal art wrote:
>
> > +AD4-By the way, has anyone experimented with Polacolor 59 4x5 sheet film 
> > in +AD4-a
> > pinhole camera?  I have obtained good results using it in my press 
> > +AD4-camera
> > but haven't had good results in my pinhole camera.  Does it not +AD4-work 
> > with
> > extended exposure times?  Any input in this area would also +AD4-be welcome.
> > +AD4-Thanks
> > +AD4-Sincerely,
> > +AD4-Andrew Sias
> >
> > Try turning your press camera into a pinhole camera... Make life easy+ACE-
> > Rosanne
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:04:30 -0400
> From: Tom Lindsay <tlind...@erols.com>
> To: "pinhole-discussion@p at ???????" <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> boundary="------------0180C9CD1735616C1904E267"
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> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] [Fwd: "51" Caddy]
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> Hello All,
>
> I'm still out there doing pinhole!!! I drive past this "51 Caddy" almost
> everyday on my way to radiation my treatments for tonsillary cancer; and
> now the old girl is up for sale. I'm not going to buy it or anything
> like that, but I felt like it needed to be immortalized in pinhole; the
> fall colors really set it off.
>
> "Keep on Pinholin'",
> Tom
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:18:40 -0400
> From: Tom Lindsay <tlind...@erols.com>
> To: "pinhole-discussion@p at ???????" <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] OOps
>
> Hello All,
>
> I forgot to tell you where to see the "51" Caddy. It's on the
> disscussion/upload list.
>
> "Keep on Pinholin'",
> Tom
>
> P.S. If someone would tell me how to do this the "correct" way I'd sure
> appreciate it. Because I see other peoples URLs to their uploads and
> wasn't quite sure what to do?
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:22:40 -0400
> From: Jarred McCaffrey <jmcca...@cs.uml.edu>
> Organization: University of Massachusetts
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] OOps
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> just type in the url exactly the way it is in your browser.  Cut and paste
> is easiest.  For example:
>
> http://www.yahoo.com
>
> I typed in exactly "http://www.yahoo.com"; and your mail reader is smart
> enough to realize it should be a link to a website.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Jarred McCaffrey
>
> Tom Lindsay wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I forgot to tell you where to see the "51" Caddy. It's on the
> > disscussion/upload list.
> >
> > "Keep on Pinholin'",
> > Tom
> >
> > P.S. If someone would tell me how to do this the "correct" way I'd sure
> > appreciate it. Because I see other peoples URLs to their uploads and
> > wasn't quite sure what to do?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:27:21 -0400
> From: Tom Lindsay <tlind...@erols.com>
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] OOps
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> Jarred,
>
> Thanks!
> "Keep on Pinholin'",
> Tom
>
> Jarred McCaffrey wrote:
>
> > just type in the url exactly the way it is in your browser.  Cut and paste
> > is easiest.  For example:
> >
> > http://www.yahoo.com
> >
> > I typed in exactly "http://www.yahoo.com"; and your mail reader is smart
> > enough to realize it should be a link to a website.
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> > Jarred McCaffrey
> >
> > Tom Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I forgot to tell you where to see the "51" Caddy. It's on the
> > > disscussion/upload list.
> > >
> > > "Keep on Pinholin'",
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > P.S. If someone would tell me how to do this the "correct" way I'd sure
> > > appreciate it. Because I see other peoples URLs to their uploads and
> > > wasn't quite sure what to do?
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 8
> From: ska...@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:11:44 EDT
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New York meeting
>
> Hi all,
> I'm a photographer from Kansas City working in pinhole.  I'll be in New York
> Oct 27th to Nov. 5th.and would like to get together with other pinholers.
> There was a New York Meeting at the Met several years ago which I could not
> attend.  Is any one interested in getting together again?  The afternoon of
> Sunday, October 29 would work the best for me.
>
> Kathy Tracy
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:22:46 -0700
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> From: Thomas Harvey <harv...@mail.aracnet.com>
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New images
>
> I have just uploaded a couple of images to my server.  Both were
> taken with an old Ansco 6x9 folding camera.  I ripped the folding
> front door and bellows out, put a plate and pinhole across the front.
> I think the focal length is about 19mm.
>
> Tom
>
> http://web.pdx.edu/~harveyt/USsundialPin.jpg
>
> http://web.pdx.edu/~harveyt/PolesPin.jpg
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:30:53 -0700
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> From: Jeff Spirer <j...@spirer.com>
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New images
> <10825513.972269914691.javamail.im...@knuckles.excite.com>
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> At 09:22 PM 10/23/00, Thomas Harvey wrote:
> >I have just uploaded a couple of images to my server.  Both were taken
> >with an old Ansco 6x9 folding camera.  I ripped the folding front door and
> >bellows out, put a plate and pinhole across the front. I think the focal
> >length is about 19mm.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >http://web.pdx.edu/~harveyt/USsundialPin.jpg
> >
> >http://web.pdx.edu/~harveyt/PolesPin.jpg
>
> Two excellent shots!  I especially like the second,  it's like reaching for
> god or something...
>
> Jeff Spirer
> Photos: http://www.spirer.com
> One People: http://www.onepeople.com/
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "Soren Svensson" <li...@turbomx5.com>
> To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera.
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:16:17 -0700
> charset="us-ascii"
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> I'm seriously considering buying the Zero 2000 and I think there are some
> people on this list that have and I would like to get some input from you.
>
> Is the camera as good as it looks on the website?
> How about fit and finish?
> Would you recommend it?
> Is it worth the price?
>
> I did find some strange data on the site. According to the specifications,
> it has a focal length of 1" (25.4 mm) and that would give a 130 degree
> diagonal angle of view.
> Well, I may have calculated something wrong, but a 1" focal length on a 6x6
> neg is 115 degrees. And even if you stretch it out to the claimed image
> circle, it's still only 119 degrees. Even the claimed horizontal and
> vertical angle doesn't match, 95.45 against a calculated 96.6 (OK, not a big
> difference but it bugs me that it doesn't match).
>
> Well, one of us must have made a mistake and I hope it's me, otherwise I
> don't know if I can trust the rest of this camera :-)
>
> Here's the formula I used:
>
> a = (90-asin(f/D))*2
>
> a -> Diagonal angle
> f -> focal length (25.4 mm claimed in specs)
> D -> Distance from pinhole to corner of neg
>      (47.6 mm for a 57x57 mm neg at 1" focal length)
>
> Regards
> Soren
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???????
> > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???????]On Behalf Of Dieter Bublitz
> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 11:47 PM
> > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera.
> >
> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > try http://www.zeroimage.com
> >
> > Maybe this is what you are looking for.
> >
> > Dieter
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 00:59:27 -0400 (EDT), Mark D Roberts
> > <mrobe...@pb.seflin.org> wrote:
> >
> > >Sometime ago someone posted a message with the address of a Zone
> > >Plate/Pinhole camera maker.
> > >I'm trying to find the site, I found it, but lost it when my computer
> > >crashed.
> > >It was not a Finney, but it was wood & sold for about $389.00.
> > >Can anyone help me????
> > >Thanking you in advance,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dieter's Lochkamera Seite: http://www.bingo-ev.de/~db106/index.htm
> > Lochkamera-FAQ: http://www.bingo-ev.de/~db106/faq.htm
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:27:35 -0700
> To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> From: Jeff Spirer <j...@spirer.com>
> Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera.
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> At 10:16 PM 10/23/00, Soren Svensson wrote:
> >I'm seriously considering buying the Zero 2000 and I think there are some
> >people on this list that have and I would like to get some input from you.
> >
> >Is the camera as good as it looks on the website?
>
> If you're talking about it's appearance, yes, at least until you use it
> enough.  Mine no longer looks at all like that.
>
> If you're talking about how it works, it does what it's supposed to do.
>
> >How about fit and finish?
>
> There isn't much to discuss there, but the wind knob isn't geared and it's
> not all that smooth, but that's not a big deal.  The back fits reasonably
> well for a wood-to-wood connection.
>
> One thing that makes me crazy, and it's not the fault of the Zero 2000, is
> the red window for frame number.  I can't see the markings on Tri-X and end
> up with about eight shots a roll.  Afga film is much better marked, at
> least if you're looking through the red window.  (Agfa also mint flavors
> the backing end you lick, yummy.)
>
> >Would you recommend it?
>
> Absolutely.
>
> >Is it worth the price?
>
> That depends on how you feel about the price.  The manufacturer sells it
> cheaper, but Pinhole Resource is here in the US and easy to talk to by
> phone (plus they use one of my photos to promote it.)
>
> But it's definitely a quality product, and it's easy to use.  Some of the
> lower price pinhole cameras don't have tripod sockets, a real problem with
> those ten minute exposures.  If you prefer roll film to sheet, it's a
> pretty good choice.
>
> >I did find some strange data on the site. According to the specifications,
> >it has a focal length of 1" (25.4 mm) and that would give a 130 degree
> >diagonal angle of view.
>
> This was followed by a lot of math.  I don't really know about the data, it
> seems fairly wide to me.
>
> It gets quite a bit of flare in the daylight, which can be sort of
> interesting, like in this photo -
> http://www.spirer.com/images/sunflower.jpg.  And just for fun, here's
> another one I posted to the list a while ago -
> http://www.spirer.com/images/shrine.jpg.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff Spirer
> Photos: http://www.spirer.com
> One People: http://www.onepeople.com/
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> Message: 13
> From: "Soren Svensson" <li...@turbomx5.com>
> To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Zone Plate/Pinhole camera.
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:53:16 -0700
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>
> > There isn't much to discuss there, but the wind knob isn't geared
> > and it's
> > not all that smooth, but that's not a big deal.  The back fits reasonably
> > well for a wood-to-wood connection.
>
> Thanks for the good info.
> I do have a follow-up question though.
>
> Right now I have a 6x9 Lochkamera
> (http://www.pinholeresource.com/products.html#lochkamera) and the film
> winding drives me nuts.
> If I don't secure the winding-knobs with rubber bands, they wind up as soon
> as I let go of them. And even if I use rubber bands, the film does not get
> winded (sp?) tightly. In fact, it's usually so lose that I get light damage
> at the edges of the film when I take the film out of the camera.
>
> How would you say that the Zero 2000 performs in this respect?
>
> Regards
> Soren
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:35:50 +0200 (MEST)
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New images
> From: echinis...@gmx.de
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> > I have just uploaded a couple of images to my server.  Both were
> > taken with an old Ansco 6x9 folding camera.  I ripped the folding
> > front door and bellows out, put a plate and pinhole across the front.
> > I think the focal length is about 19mm.
>
> what do you mean : 'ripped out'? (sorry, non-anglophone)
>
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > http://web.pdx.edu/~harveyt/USsundialPin.jpg
> >
> > http://web.pdx.edu/~harveyt/PolesPin.jpg
>
> great shots!
>
> keep on
>
> martin
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:35:49 +0200 (MEST)
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New images
> From: echinis...@gmx.de
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> > I have just uploaded a couple of images to my server.  Both were
> > taken with an old Ansco 6x9 folding camera.  I ripped the folding
> > front door and bellows out, put a plate and pinhole across the front.
> > I think the focal length is about 19mm.
>
> what do you mean : 'ripped out'? (sorry, non-anglophone)
>
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > http://web.pdx.edu/~harveyt/USsundialPin.jpg
> >
> > http://web.pdx.edu/~harveyt/PolesPin.jpg
>
> great shots!
>
> keep on
>
> martin
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:33:01 -0400
> From: pinholeren...@netscape.net
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] new image
>
> I have been having a hard time getting any usable images from my finney -
> then this one popped out .
>
> http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/viewimage.x/001071f3/grays/pinhole1.JPG
>
> chip renner
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> Message: 17
> From: "Richard M. Koolish" <kool...@bbn.com>
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New images
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 100 08:47:46 -0400 (EDT)
> Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???????
>
> > http://web.pdx.edu/~harveyt/USsundialPin.jpg
>
>     Is that a real working sundial?  And where is it?
>     And would you mind if I sent a note about your picture to the
>     sundial mailing list?
>
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