On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Greg Brown<[email protected]> wrote:
> My vote (in case some of you are not aware of it) is to leave the names
> as-is. As Todd says, Sun didn't invent these terms - they have been around
> for a long time. Calling these classes anything other than what they are
> seems artificial (and confusing).

<delurk>

In Eclipse, when i do ctrl-shift-t and then type List i get

List - antlr.collections
List - com.sun.xml.bind.v2.schemagen.xmlschema
List - groovyjarjar.antlr.collections
List - java.awt
List - java.util

When I type Map i get

Map - java.util
Map - javax.swing.text.html
Map - org.hibernate.mapping

Now if this would really bother me (which it doesn't) i would go to
settings-java-appearance-type filters and exlude the packages i don't
want to see in autocompletion. I'm sure intellij has a similar option.

Looking at koders.com, there are *many* other projects that use these
terms as well

Map.java -> http://www.koders.com/?s=file%3aMap.java&la=Java&li=*
ArrayList.java ->
http://www.koders.com/default.aspx?s=file%3AArrayList.java&btn=&la=Java&li=*
LinkedList.java ->
http://www.koders.com/default.aspx?s=file%3ALinkedList.java&btn=&la=Java&li=*

So what is the big deal here ? If this were commons-collections then i
would understand the energy being spent on the discussion, but Pivot
is a state of the art RIA framework for god's sake :-) Most developers
don't even care about these collection classes, they just want to
deliver a kick-ass RIA app to their customers, something which Pivot
claims to do very well. The collection classes are neither Pivot's
main drawback nor its biggest feature, so focus energy on the part
that your users will really care about.

</delurk>

Jorg

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