On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Jordan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stephen Hahn wrote:
>>
>>  3.  Akamai isn't the only CDN in the world.  It's not even the only
>>      one Sun does business with--and all of them are interested in
>>      doing compute-in-the-cloud.  Assertions about GET versus POST for
>>      CDNs are short-term assertions.  More importantly, there is a
>>      distinct pricing calculation to be made between directly-served
>>      and CDN-served data that not every pkg(5) depot operator will wish
>>      to make.
>
> I think you're saying there that many different kinds of distribution
> mechanisms need to be supported.  I would never say that we should design
> *for* Akamai, because next year we might well use a different download
> provider.  However, Akamai is an example of a major download provider, and
> one that we *do* use, and so any solution should be designed to be
> compatible with it, and with any other mechanism that we can reasonably
> envision.
>
> To me, that suggests that the protocol needs to be as simple and standard as
> possible, so that it does not have to be reimplemented for each distribution
> mechanism.  That in turn translates to "behave like a completely static
> file-oriented web server".

The primary concern expressed to me by a developer last week, was that
they didn't want to run "untrustworthy" software like the pkg(5) depot
server on their system. They didn't want to have to do any special
setup, or any special installation.

They seemed strongly opposed to having any special software for the
depot server. Bart was there and so explained some of the benefits of
having a depot server that could do posts:

* Ability to perform searches without having to download a catalog

* Ability to get various listings and other information from the server directly

There were a few others he mentioned, but they've slipped my mind.

The one thing I could agree on was that it might be better in the long
term to allow full catalog, filelist, and file operations to happen
off a "standard" webserver, while all other operations would require a
special depot server.

I still really like the fact that ips has a rich set of server functionality.

That's something I haven't seen any of the other packaging systems do.

They all off-load the logic onto the client.

-- 
Shawn Walker

"To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." -
Robert Orben
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