On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:45:38AM +0200, Rainer Orth wrote: > > Angry emails on public forums, as cathartic as they may be from time to > > time, are not helpful, particularly when the new folks in charge are still > > making up their minds whether open development is worth the cost. > > Perhaps true, but on the other hand, I often sense what I consider a > highly problematic reaction from some members of the IPS team. The > tenor often is: we're still in development, we know the requirements and > constraints, either contribute or shut up.
The fact that you got a response acknowledging the problem means that we do know that it needs to be addressed, and we have plans to do so. My guess is that your suggestions were construed as demands instead of constructive criticism. We're happy to have a conversation about concerns, take reasonable suggestions, and accept constructive criticism. However, if someone shows up on our list and sends angry and demanding e-mail, it's hard to be accommodating. I recognized your name from the S10 Platinum Beta, and I believe that you are trying to be helpful. Bugs have been logged, and they'll get fixed. I think we're having a productive discussion now. I don't think that this conversation is going to be productive if we continue to criticize one another. It would be better to focus on the technical issues that concern you. > What this seems to forget is that many sites are sort of forced to use > what is available *now*, and have been working with packaging software > and automated installation for years if not decades, so they > understand their use cases just as well. Could you clarify what you mean by this comment? The OpenSolaris releases are 2-week snapshots of our development release. If you deploy FreeBSD or Debian, are you required to pull the HEAD of FreeBSD every two weeks, or run Debian Unstable? I understand wanting to run the latest bits, but there needs to be an expectation that the code is still in devlopment and may be incomplete and subject to change. -j _______________________________________________ pkg-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-discuss
