On 03/06/13 09:31, Philip Brown wrote:


If the customer is patching every month or something.
But not all customers do that.
As a counter example, we don't patch our machines sometimes for as long as
(*redacted for security reasons*:)

That's fine.... even if you patch only every six months, using IPS is
still far faster than fiddling with LU or dropping to single user mode,
splitting mirrors, running patchadd and the like.


In contrast. OS installs are a blocking factor. Therefore, it actually
does matter how fast they happen, because you cannot do anything with
the hardware until the installation process has finished.

I think you'll find that initial OS installs are significantly
faster w/ IPS & AI than with jumpstart.

About the only thing that's significantly slower is single package
install and removal, and if you add the time needed for a human to
compute the transitive closure of dependencies, IPS wins there too.

Look, we do focus on performance... but optimizing for single package
addition and removal on EOL hardware known to be slow for any
single-threaded operation is not likely to happen.  Pkg install
on a T4 or x86 box is perfectly acceptable.  There are other areas
we need to tune, such as change-facet and the like.


I, for example, have spent WEEKS of time attempting to debug and
fine-tune OS installs in the last few months. A faster install
process, could have saved me literally days of effort. Guess which
case matters the most to *this* customer?

Why not take a system, start with a basic set of packages, and
and remove stuff, and then write an AI manifest to duplicate that
install?  Simple, easy and reasonably fast.

If you have lots of systems installing at the same time off the
same local repository, be sure to configure Apache front ends, or
use NFS repositories for maximum performance.

- Bart




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