Hello Paul,

Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 21:44 +0200 schrieb Paul Gevers:
> Hi Markus,
> 
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 16:04:09 +0200 Markus Koschany <a...@debian.org> wrote:
> > We can only support one major Tomcat version per release. Tomcat9 has
> > been part of Buster and Bullseye already and is superseded by Tomcat
> > 10 in Bookworm. I wanted to wait with the removal request until the
> > issues in [resteasy3.0] and [tomcatjss] have been resolved but to make
> > it more obvious I am filing this bug report now.
> 
> Release Team member here. I'll note that I'm not impressed by the 
> communication and timing of this bug. We're in Full Freeze for bookworm. 
> This is no time for transitions, let alone for *uncoordinated* ones.

This bug report was merely intended as a reminder. I assumed that tomcatjss
(#1031816) and resteasy3.0 were the only two issues left to resolve. I agree
that we should have filed the bug report earlier. I was under the impression
that all affected packages are maintained by the Java team. IMHO it doesn't
make much sense to maintain a Tomcat plugin outside of it, which is by
definition tightly coupled with the web server.

Still, there was plenty of time and I have pointed to several possible ways to
resolve this problem but there was no response. [1] 

> 
> You should have raised the issue earlier and brought it to the release 
> team. tomcat9 and tomcat10 are both key packages so neither can easily 
> be removed.
> 
>  From a quick look at the key packages:
> 
> It seems you didn't follow up (86 days) on libcommons-dbcp-java which 
> can't migrate to bookworm because it would make libbiojava-java-doc 
> uninstallable (no fix there, no bug report filed).

I did not upload libcommons-dbcp-java and I was not aware of the problem. I
will take care of it. 

> src:tiles also build-depends on libtomcat9-java, with no bug filed for 
> the migration to tomcat10 *and* it having it's own FTBFS bug. (It's key 
> because of src:libspring-java)

Again I was not aware of src:tiles, probably because there was an RC bug
already. This problem seems solvable too.

> On IRC carnil and jmm_ suggested that src:tomcat9 could be left in 
> bookworm but have it's server component stripped. Would that help the 
> situation?

Yes, that was one of my suggestions. 

> Everything in this transition would still need an unblock by the release 
> team, as we're now very close to the hard freeze (24 May) and nearly 
> ready to release.

I suggest we just drop all tomcat9 binary packages except libtomcat9-java and I
fix tiles and libcommons-dbcp-java. That seems to be the easiest solution right
now.

Regards,

Markus



[1] https://bugs.debian.org/1031816#37

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