On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 09:31:05PM +0100, rosea.grammostola wrote:
On 12/07/2010 04:33 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote:When working with Multimedia / Proaudio on Linux | Debian, you have a lot of small packages installed pretty soon (one task one tool).
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I thought, isn't there a way to make a better menu by the Debian Multimedia Team? A bit like Ubuntu Studio has done e.g. an extra menu package you can install if you want to do Multimedia production, but then better?
Great that you put attention to this!An extra menu package dosn't feel very Debian to me, though. Debian logic is to propose a change to Debian Policy to have the improved organisation apply universally, not only when a certain package is installed.
aptitude install less debian-policy zless /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/menu-policy.txt.gzThat said, nothing stops us from *both* work on improving the official Debian Menu System *and* some package with a custom tweak tied to one or more specific desktop menu systems. Same initial discussion that you've now opened apply to both. :-)
I split up Multimedia (players) and Sound & Video (production)
+1
At this point I have 7 extra entries in Sound & Video 1. Audio Editing (Editing, Mixing, Mastering: Audacity, jack-rack, lv2rack, guitarix etc ) 2. JACK (Jack and Alsa tools like qjackctl, japa, jack_mixer and software mixers for alsa audio cards for example) 3. MIDI (Midi tools like Vkeybd, qsynth)4. Musician (Musescore notation editor, solfege, Chordata, gtklick etc)5. Recording (DAW: ardour, qtractor) 6. Synth (phasex, yoshimi, puredata, Qutecsound etc.) 7. Video Editing (pitivi, xjadeo, kino etc)I tried to keep it as simple as possible, not to many entries and pretty broad areas cause every Debian Audio production app should be able to be entered in a certain entry...
Let's use the same format as the Debian Menu System - both to ease passing the discussion to the debian-policy@ list later, and to help ensure we are talking about same things (e.g. where exactly in the menu hierarchy each section is placed, and what is descriptive text):
Applications/Sound & Video
Sound & Video production
Applications/Sound & Video/Audio Editing
Editing, Mixing, Mastering
Examples: audacity, jack-rack, lv2rack, guitarix
Applications/Sound & Video/JACK
Jack and Alsa tools
Examples: qjackctl, japa, jack_mixer
Applications/Sound & Video/MIDI
Midi tools
Examples: vkeybd, qsynth
Applications/Sound & Video/Musician
Music score composition, and live musician training tools
Examples: musescore, solfege, chordata, gtklick
Applications/Sound & Video/Recording
Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) and harddisk recording (HDR)
Examples: ardour, qtractor
Applications/Sound & Video/Synth
Syntesizers and programmatic sound processing
Examples: phasex, yoshimi, puredata, qutecsound
Applications/Sound & Video/Video Editing
Examples: pitivi, xjadeo, kino
Applications/Multimedia
Players
I took the liberty to add or extend some descriptive text. Please
double-check that I did not distort your intended meaning of some.
A other thing that has to be thought of, is how this all applies to other WMs like KDE, XFCE etc. All though, if you create a DebianMultimedia-menu, people are free to install it or not...
The Debian menu system has plugins for various WMs. The beauty of this is that if we stick to that, we need not deal with the details of each and every oddball WM menu engine.
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