Hi, Reinhard.

I hope that you're having a good DebConf... I miss chatting with you...

On 2011-07-27, at 16:22, Reinhard Tartler wrote:

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 19:48:05 (CEST), Rogério Brito wrote:
I'm in the middle of a power outage right now, using the last few
drops of energy of notebook battery and a 3G connection, so I will be
brief. (Oh, please keep in the CC'ies to me).

The energy just came back and I'm taking that time to charge my battery, but I won't be able to compile stuff here.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:41, Andres Mejia <mcita...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 26, 2011 12:49 PM, "robert" <robert.hegem...@gmx.de> wrote:
From my point of view, there may be some small patches to apply
and then release 3.99:

1 - pending LGPL patch
2 - eventually changing default behaviour for ID3v2 unicode tags.

Robert, it seems that Andres just adopted the suggestion that I gave
him of backporting some changes. Regarding a new release, I think that
we may need to include one extra thing in our TODO list. See below.

Andres, may I suggest that instead of placing patches inline in
debian/lame-get-orig-source.sh, we create an 'upstream-dfsg' branch, do
modifications there directly and roll tarballs from that?

I would like to take a peek at how you guys are packaging it... Will do as soon as the power is back.

Andres, I just saw that LAME was rejected by the FTP masters:

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia- maintainers/2011-July/020498.html

That part is only used if we use lame's internal IO routines. Just rip
that apart and link with libsndfile and we're done. Please reupload
that...

Unforunately, this won't work easily because frontend/main.c uses
functions from portableio.h unconditionally. We'd therefore need some
more patches. Anyone familiar with the codebase and willing to
contribute that patch?

Oh, shit. I'll take a look at that... I thought that the code were ifdef'ed... Isn't it?

Most of the functions in portableio.[ch] are quite trivial, anyway...
You can tell that I *badly* want LAME in Debian, can't you?
(Especially now that it seems that the FTP masters are convinced that
such software is Free Software).

Oh, hint, hint for the multimedia maintainers: what about uploading my
already packaged mp3packer from my launchpad PPA? [0]

[0]: https://launchpad.net/~rbrito/+archive/ppa/+files/ mp3packer_1.20-1~ubuntu1.dsc

OK, the battery of my laptop is running out... :-(

Doesn't the package lack a dependency on lame?

No, absolutely *no* dependency on LAME.

AFAIUI it is a tool to
reencode .mp3 files. I persume that it uses lame for that, but the
documentatin isn't entirely clear on that.

It doesn't reencode. It only "rearranges" the frames in a lossless manner. Like, for instance, getting the bits that are already produced by an MP3 encoder (any one) and "putting them in bins" so as to make the files smaller (taking a better advantage of the bit reservoir, etc).

The program is so darned cool... The best thing with this MP3 thing is that even though you already have a file that is encoded by anyone, it is possible to a great extent to manipulate it losslessly:

* mp3gain, to avoid clipping while decoding (of course, clipping before encoding is not remediable); * mp3packer, to squeeze some extra bits and make the files smaller (reduding the bitrate).

In my very humble opinion, the combo (mp3packer, LAME) breathes at least a little bit of life in a format that many already thought that was dead, while still being, say, universally compatible... With them, you can raise the bitrate of your encodes a notch to get better sound and then losslessly rearrange the file to a lower bitrate...

A side effect of it is that it also fixes many old VBR files that may have incorrect lengths reported (and, thus, renders my package vbrfix obsolete).

OK, enough blurb. The packaging of mp3packer is really trivial (as you can see) and I would volunteer to maintain it under the pkg- multimedia umbrella.


Regards,

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