On Mar 30, Martin Pitt <mp...@debian.org> wrote:

> IMHO, systemd should just ship what you need for booting a minimal
> system, and shouldn't have big dependencies. We currently cripple some
> features (networkd, due to dropping iptables-dev) or not ship them at
> all (importd, journald-remote) as they pull in too many dependencies,
> which isn't satisfying either.
I agree.

> Hence the idea of systemd-extras -- everything which brings in large
> dependencies and isn't needed for booting every system can go there.
> systemd would Recommends: systemd-extras, but admins of embedded
> machines etc. could remove/not install it.
A single -extras package is not a good solution unless we believe that 
all these features are non-relevant corner cases that only a significant 
minority of users care about.
I do not believe that this will be true for the networkd firewall 
features, for a start.
So as long as one of the features will be reasonably popular, which 
I expect that will happen at least for the networkd firewall features, 
then most people will just install both packages.

I am not opposed to a systemd/systemd-full split *if* we have a clear 
idea of the use cases of both packages but I see no benefit in just 
creating a second package for everything that contains everything that 
has extra dependencies.

-- 
ciao,
Marco

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