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Package: systemd
Version: 232-25+deb9u1
Severity: normal
On a vm at linode.com /home wouldn't be mounted (mount would hang forever with
x-systemd.automount and abort leading to sulogin without it) and swap wouldn't
be enabled when udev wasn't installed.
udev was in "rc" state, so maybe a "dpkg --purge" would have made it work, I
needed the system working so couldn't do as many tests as I might have liked.
Also the serial console on /dev/ttyS0 (a virtual serial port that goes to the
Linode web interface) would not be enabled without udev installed.
It appears that correct operation requires udev installed. A package
requirement would prevent minimal installations from breaking.
-- Package-specific info:
-- System Information:
Debian Release: 9.3
APT prefers stable
APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 4.14.12-x86_64-linode92 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_AU, LC_CTYPE=en_AU (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to
en_AU.UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_AU (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to
en_AU.UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
Versions of packages systemd depends on:
ii adduser 3.115
ii libacl1 2.2.52-3+b1
ii libapparmor1 2.11.0-3
ii libaudit1 1:2.6.7-2
ii libblkid1 2.29.2-1
ii libc6 2.24-11+deb9u1
ii libcap2 1:2.25-1
ii libcryptsetup4 2:1.7.3-4
ii libgcrypt20 1.7.6-2+deb9u2
ii libgpg-error0 1.26-2
ii libidn11 1.33-1
ii libip4tc0 1.6.0+snapshot20161117-6
ii libkmod2 23-2
ii liblz4-1 0.0~r131-2+b1
ii liblzma5 5.2.2-1.2+b1
ii libmount1 2.29.2-1
ii libpam0g 1.1.8-3.6
ii libseccomp2 2.3.1-2.1
ii libselinux1 2.6-3+b3
ii libsystemd0 232-25+deb9u1
ii mount 2.29.2-1
ii procps 2:3.3.12-3
ii util-linux 2.29.2-1
Versions of packages systemd recommends:
ii dbus 1.10.24-0+deb9u1
ii libpam-systemd 232-25+deb9u1
Versions of packages systemd suggests:
ii policykit-1 0.105-18
pn systemd-container <none>
pn systemd-ui <none>
Versions of packages systemd is related to:
pn dracut <none>
pn initramfs-tools <none>
ii udev 232-25+deb9u1
-- Configuration Files:
/etc/systemd/logind.conf changed [not included]
-- no debconf information
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Hi Russell,
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 08:45:24 +0000 Russell Coker <russ...@coker.com.au>
wrote:
> Package: systemd
> Version: 232-25+deb9u1
> Severity: normal
>
> On a vm at linode.com /home wouldn't be mounted (mount would hang forever with
> x-systemd.automount and abort leading to sulogin without it) and swap wouldn't
> be enabled when udev wasn't installed.
>
> udev was in "rc" state, so maybe a "dpkg --purge" would have made it work, I
> needed the system working so couldn't do as many tests as I might have liked.
>
> Also the serial console on /dev/ttyS0 (a virtual serial port that goes to the
> Linode web interface) would not be enabled without udev installed.
>
> It appears that correct operation requires udev installed. A package
> requirement would prevent minimal installations from breaking.
>
Strictly speaking, systemd does not need udev. Your particular system
does and usually d-i etc will make sure that udev is installed.
In a container, udev is pretty much useless, which is why systemd does
not have a hard dependency on udev so we do not pull in any unnecessary
dependencies.
Hope that clarifies and explains that the missing dependency is actually
deliberately so. See the changes in 227-3:
https://tracker.debian.org/news/725410
Michael
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