On July 14, 2009 23:00:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Friday 10 July 2009, Chani wrote: > > on sunday me, notmart and ruphy came up with some crazy ideas for the > > ZUI. here are the notes... better late than never ;) > > > > zoom 2 (fully zoomed out): > > > > -the containment is too small to realyl interact with, so put the toolbox > > over top. > > problem: on small devices the toolbox could be bigger than the > > containment. > > > > -if you have one screen there's always space for 4x4 containments, so > > when containment-saving is implemented we could have 2 columns of active > > ones and 2 columns of saved ones. > > how would you tell the difference? (saved ones would be "greyed out" and > not actually interactive, i suppose?)
possibly... maybe we could have some sort of header, I'm not sure... they wouldn't have the same set of actions, and they'd be on the right-hand half of the screen. > > where would the visualization come from for the saved ones? (snapshot saved > to an image when saved?) yes, a thumbnail image > > how often would one switch between saved and un-saved? good question. I might only stash my school activities when I'm out at a conference, or I might stash one when I finish my homework for that course and open it again in a day or two. > > > you could drag&drop between the areas to load > > and save them (although we could have load/save buttons too perhaps). > > buttons on each activity kinds of sucks as it is. adding more buttons.. > mmm... yeah :/ > > > we might need to record the last screen they were on, for this. when a > > it already is recorded when the screen is removed. cool > > > screen is unplugged, all its containments would be saved out, and show up > > in the saved- containment list on either the first screen or all screens. > > when it's plugged in again they'd all jump back where they were > > automagically. to move a containment from one screen to another, just > > drag it there. > > disabling and saving out unplugged screen activities is a nice idea. > > keeping screen activities completely separate though makes for some > annoyances like having to decide ahead of time which screen a containment > should be on, or else be faced with some odd dance like save the > containment, go to the other screen and select it to be loaded. no, just drag it over to the screen you want it on. :/ drag&drop is *that* unintuitive? > > the whole save/load thing feels very artificial at that point. > > i do like the idea of a "make this activity inactive" area, perhaps by > simple dragging it there as you note. but i don't think it can or should > dominate the screen much if at all. > > in fact, to me it would make the most sense to just have a strip of > inactive activites, sort of like the new add widgets interface will be. hmm, that could work too. > > or perhaps just replace zooming with such a listing altogether .. perhaps > zooming would just put the view into a coverflow-ish mode that lets you > flick through the various activities. this would also neatly solve the > "buttons on each activity" problem as one set of controls would be shown > below and acting on the activity that is currently "front and center". hmm. interesting. > > second zoom out could present a nice grid effect if needed .. this might > agree nicely with the media center visual goals as well. wait... so on which zoom level would you get the chance to drag an applet between containments? > painting a screenshot of the active containment just mixes messages: "some > of these things are zoomed, but others aren't". confusing. I agree. I think sebas suggested greying them out, but still... > > painting the walllpaper of the active containment, or any wallpaper for > that matter, means having to be able to clearly distinguish between that > background and the containments themselves. that implies a border/shadow > painted around containments. that's the technical issue that needs > addressing, regardless of what zooming techniques are otherwise used. ahh. um. so draw a border, then? :) didn't you say you had some shadow thingy? ...but once we start drawing around them then we can't perfectly fit them into a 2x2 or 4x4 grid, wah. so then maybe one of the other approaches (coverflow, dynamic zoom) would look prettier. -- This message brought to you by eevil bananas and the number 3. www.chani3.com
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