On 2020-02-13 11:55, Vlad Zahorodnii wrote:
On 2/13/20 8:11 PM, David Edmundson wrote:
I'm also seeing a rising amount of pushing without review on the core
repos.  I would like for us all to (nicely) call that out if we see
any instances. Reviews are super important, the best time to fix a bug
is before it even happens. Even for small commits and "safe" commits.

Yes, ideally each commit must be reviewed by somebody. But what if one doesn't get _any_ feedback from code reviewers for weeks or even worse for months? What one should in that case? Speaking for myself, I manage such cases by sending private messages asking to do a code review and I feel very bad after doing this because I know people whom I talk to are are busy with their own stuff and they don't really want to deal with "problems."

I think we first need to understand why people are pushing without any code review. Is it just because of desperation? or is it just because of not caring?

Personally, I only ever commit without review to fix very small UI glitches or correct bad strings, and even then only when I'm 100% certain that the commit is good because the same thing was approved elsewhere or it is self-evidently, uncontroversially correct. For example, https://phabricator.kde.org/R120:2a0b1f570b3a15f8c12267889e46d9dabacb4b6d and https://phabricator.kde.org/R236:2157e258721be0c81477b2e305e6d697cafb597d.

The flip side of asking for everything to go through review is that reviewers need to be on top of their review queues, or else even trivial changes get frustratingly delayed for days or weeks for no real gain. But in general, I agree with the sentiment that everything should go through review, and especially anything anything that's remotely complicated or that's used by downstream code.

Nate

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