Le jeudi, janvier 7, 2021 12:28 PM, niccolo <nicc...@venerandi.com> a écrit :

> Hi,
> sorry to bring this up again, but I would be in favor of a switching to 2 
> releases every year. I'd like to add some reasons to do that on the 
> promotional side:
> 1) In Promo, we are quite stepping up our game in the quality of 
> announcements, to both the website and the release video. We are already a 
> bit stretched out with time, and having more of that to prepare each release 
> would benefit us, especially if we intend - and I think we do - to improve 
> our work even further.

I don't agree. The problem is that we are always starting working on an 
announcement too late. If we were starting more early writing the announcement, 
it would be easier.

> 2) We have measured that doing less announcements every year usually gives 
> those more engagement; we'd expect a good rise of that if we switch from 3 to 
> 2 yearly.

This is the case for 'release service' announcements. Plasma announcements are 
getting more and more engagement. Also I'm not sure that having if we were to 
make 2 announcements instead of 3, the engagement would be more then 50% higher.

> 3) Finally, we also expect higher engagement if we have more big features to 
> promote. In all the releases I've worked on, I always felt - yes, this is 
> subjective - that the changes were not quite enough to make the user go "wow" 
> (we are generally talking about 2/4 big features each release). Bringing that 
> up by ~50% would help a lot.

The Plasma 5.21 announcements, I have been working on, is already big enough, 
so don't worry :) Large set of big features also means more chance of big 
regressions, big announcements to translate, ...

> 4) It is much easier to explain to the users that they are going to get the 
> new features soon in an announcement, if major distributions such as Ubuntu 
> and Kubuntu have the new release ready soon, rather than having to wait 
> months to actually get them.

I'm not convinced but I might be biased since I believe full rolling 
distributions are the only way forward for most end users.

> I would also suggest switching to 6 months from a developer point of view, 
> but here I'd prefer to only argue the benefit in the promotional side, adding 
> up to the advantage of synced release frequency with distributions. It 
> doesn't make much sense to be annoyed that your changes do not reach the 
> users in time in a 6 months release cycle, when you currently have to wait 
> about the same amount of time, changing every time, before that version gets 
> picked up by major distributions with most users, as said before.

Cheers,
Carl

> Thanks,
> Niccolò
>
> p.s.: my mail could be arriving with a big delay and duplicated; if so, I'm 
> sorry, I did some confusion with my different email addresses.
>
> From "Plasma-devel" plasma-devel-boun...@kde.org
> To "plasma-devel" plasma-devel@kde.org
> Cc kde-de...@kde.org
> Date Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:01:29 +0000
> Subject Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma
>
> We discussed this in the Plasma meeting on Monday and I'm afraid there's 
> little appetite in moving to a 6 monthly release or a 3 monthly release.  We 
> did used to have a 3 monthly schedule but that is too tight given the length 
> of beta and freezes we want to have now.  But also 6 monthly feels too long, 
> for distros that miss the release that become a long time that we have users 
> on an older release. 
>
> Having said that if there's occasions where we can shift a release a bit to 
> help distros we're happy to do that.
>
> Jonathan


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