> On Jan. 6, 2013, 7:34 a.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > I don't like having a link dependency on plasmagenericshell. If that is 
> > supposed to be used, then it needs to go to the workspaces libs.
> > 
> > I also think that this approach just doesn't scale. We use Plasma styled 
> > dialogs for more things and I don't want to have to use this approach 
> > everywhere and not all of them are C++ based. Furthermore in case of KWin 
> > it's a little bit stupid to set an X11 property for the shadows on a KWin 
> > internal window.
> > 
> > I will look into the whole thing. I think especially the tabbox has some 
> > old code still around which might not be needed any more.
> 
> Xuetian Weng wrote:
>     yep, I totally agree what you said. But as I exam the code I couldn't 
> think of any easier solution that can avoid rewrite this part of code.
>     One of the problem is, the background is defined in qml, so set shadow 
> here isn't correct if someone don't use a plasma background. But maybe the 
> background should be move out, but in that case it would break existing 
> tabbox qml (fortunately there aren't much on kde-look.org).
>     
>     The right approach is to use Plasma::Dialog IMHO, but use it here is not 
> very easy and it would still use same code (which is in kdelibs) to set X11 
> property for shadow.
>     
>     So kwin will directly use Plasma::Svg for tabbox shadow?.. I can't see a 
> clear way for doing this right so I just take a easiest way for this. (And to 
> call attention for right people on this, on purpose :P)
> 
> Thomas Lübking wrote:
>     KWin needs a (tmp proprietary) property to set the shadow from qml.
>     
>     Item {
>       shadowLeft = <someimage>
>     }
>     
>     Plasma (components) hopefully provides a qml way to access the pixmap(id) 
> of a Plasma::Svg directly, otherwise one will have to create 
> PlasmaCore.SvgItem (i hope they exist) and pass them over to the property 
> (but i've atm. no idea how to make an image out of that)
> 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>     given that KWin includes one layout for Plasma Active which does not set 
> a background at all and which should not get a shadow, anything which would 
> enforce the usage of Shadows is wrong.
>     
>     It needs to be done in a way as Thomas suggests. If that's not possible 
> than we have to live with a regression.
> 
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>     "I don't like having a link dependency on plasmagenericshell. If that is 
> supposed to be used, then it needs to go to the workspaces libs"
>     
>     libplasmagenerichsell is in kde-workspace/libs/plasmagenericshell. it 
> obviously has no dependency on any plasma application or shell since it's in 
> kde-workspace/libs. what more do you want?
>     
>     "We use Plasma styled dialogs for more things and I don't want to have to 
> use this approach everywhere and not all of them are C++ based."
>     
>     if instead of using plasma style dialogs, the code used Plasma::Dialog 
> then it wouldn't be an issue. if there is some reason Plasma::Dialog can not 
> be used, we can perhaps look at why and see if that can be fixed.

>> "I don't like having a link dependency on plasmagenericshell. If that is 
>> supposed to be used, then it needs to go to the workspaces libs"
> libplasmagenerichsell is in kde-workspace/libs/plasmagenericshell. it 
> obviously has no dependency on any plasma application or shell since it's in 
> kde-workspace/libs. what more do you want?
When I wrote that I didn't know that it is in libs, I assumed it's not, because 
the include used "" instead of <> also the name implies that it is about a 
generic plasma desktop shell. My guessing skills are not that good ;-)

>> "We use Plasma styled dialogs for more things and I don't want to have to 
>> use this approach everywhere and not all of them are C++ based."
> if instead of using plasma style dialogs, the code used Plasma::Dialog then 
> it wouldn't be an issue. if there is some reason Plasma::Dialog can not be 
> used, we can perhaps look at why and see if that can be fixed.
KWin is a very special beast, it cannot manage it's own Clients. If it somehow 
gets a dependency to KWindowSystem it even starts to break as events gets 
eaten. I don't know if that has been the issue here, but it is quite likely. I 
remember that for the Qml based TabBox it just didn't work with using the 
appropriate Plasma Component. It's nice that you want to fix it, but I rather 
doubt that you want to include fixes for the special needs of a window manager 
:-)

But definetaly using Plasma::Dialog would mean that it has to be Plasma styled. 
That is already a showstopper for TabBox given that the window strip may not be 
Plasma styled. Also for Qml based scripts it would turn the you *can* use 
Plasma style into a you *have* to use Plasma style. I must say that I don't 
want to have to depend on Plasma styling as that would be considered as a 
showstopper for any approaches of using KWin in Razor-Qt (they are very 
interested) and Unity (I have hope since Compiz is dead and Sam no longer 
employed at Canonical).


- Martin


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On Jan. 6, 2013, 6:55 a.m., Xuetian Weng wrote:
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> (Updated Jan. 6, 2013, 6:55 a.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for kwin, Plasma, Aaron J. Seigo, and Martin Gräßlin.
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> use the same technique for krunner and some plasma to brought back tabbox 
> shadow.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   kwin/CMakeLists.txt 62e9964 
>   kwin/kcmkwin/kwintabbox/CMakeLists.txt 72a6b72 
>   kwin/tabbox/declarative.h e36e67b 
>   kwin/tabbox/declarative.cpp 3bdcfac 
>   powerdevil/daemon/brightnessosdwidget.h ef08903 
>   powerdevil/daemon/brightnessosdwidget.cpp e4cf80a 
> 
> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108224/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> compiles, no problem.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Xuetian Weng
> 
>

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