On Saturday 25 May 2013 09:43:26 Daniel Nicoletti wrote: > 2013/5/25 Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org>: > > And I would completely fail to use the switch. I have huge problems > > understanding those switches and I have not seen any implementation of the > > switch where I got which one is on and which one is off. > > You are totally right, because they need fixing, even if they are only to > be used in Plasma Active. > Here are a few examples of how a good switch should look like (IMO): > http://developer.android.com/design/media/settings_master_on_off_2.png > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AXi56wp5zVE/T6pAZj-MXdI/AAAAAAAAACM/-wT0w1PpcJ4/s1 > 600/device-2012-05-09-152937.png Both I don't get what is on and what is off. Especially the second one is problematic as I don't know whether it's on right now or whether I have to drag the switch over to turn it on. The first one shows me that something is on but I wouldn't get that it is a switch. It looks like an indicator. > > This is the one I like the most (it's the one on my Xperia phone): > http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss269/netbookc/XB1/XperiaSICSFirmware_12. > png This one would work for me as long as both sides are shown. If I would just have the disabled or the enabled state without the other one I would fail as well. > > These switches are very useful in certain parts of the world (e.g. US) > > where every light switch is like that. It was quite an epiphany to me > > when I visited the US last year - I finally got what these switches are > > supposed to be. For me this switch is just a not working metaphor as we > > don't have switches like that in this part of the world [1]. > > > > Just something to remember when it comes to metaphors. They might be > > awesome for some, but if one doesn't understand it, it makes it much more > > difficult. > I don't think Switches are only about metaphors, actually here in Brazil we > also don't have those, but look at some China toy, or some table clock and > you will see them, so what it misses is how does it present it's states. You know what I just did? I went through my flat and looked at all switches to see whether I have any of them. Almost all switches do not indicate whether they are in an on or off state. The state is mostly indicated by some other indicator (e.g. a LED). I found only two switches which also indicate the on/off state. One of them is [1], which is quite clear, but wouldn't work in software. The other one is similar to the typical touch switches, but both possible states are labeled, so I get how it is meant to be used. But a switch like the one in typical touch world doesn't exist at least in my flat. > > In print-manager for instance I make the text and icon disabled trying to > improve the poor situation. do you have a screenshot? I bet I will fail again.
Cheers Martin [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mechanischer_Schalter.jpg _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel