> On jul 28, 2014, 7:03 p.m., Mark Gaiser wrote:
> > If there is one hardware combination that works best on linux, it's OpenGL 
> > + Intel.
> > I find it hard to believe that GLES is better and in all cases. That must 
> > be a driver/mesa bug that should be investigated and fixed.
> > 
> > If this would've been a fix to workaround crappy AMD drivers, then this 
> > patch would be understandable. AMD is just slacking.
> > But switching to OpenGL ES on all platforms because intel supposedly 
> > performs better is a bit weird. Can't the plasma graphics stack (OpenGL or 
> > OpenGL ES) be chosen at runtime like it can with KWin? Perhaps you can even 
> > re-use KWin's GL setting in plasma?
> 
> Aleix Pol Gonzalez wrote:
>     Well, OpenGL ES is a subset of OpenGL, so less things will be available 
> but I'd say it's better to use the small thing until we need the big one 
> rather than the other way around. Especially if we want to think about 
> devices, some day.

What's the current state of GLES on desktop platforms anyway?
- Intel?
- NVidia?
- AMD?

I think AMD "might" have better GL support on the desktop. There was something 
there with EGL, but that was a couple years ago when kwin_gles was brand new. I 
don't know it's current state.

Lastly, what do you think of the idea to use KWin's GL detection stuff for this?


- Mark


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On jul 28, 2014, 6:09 p.m., Aleix Pol Gonzalez wrote:
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> (Updated jul 28, 2014, 6:09 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma.
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-workspace
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> When trying to reduce memory usage in plasma shell, we realized that one of 
> the reasons we got such big memory footprint was actually the intel driver 
> (on intel systems, that is). After some investigation, David found out we 
> were going through some memory-consuming path [1]. A way to workaround it is 
> by using only OpenGLES. Everything still works here after this patch, so it 
> seems to be a good change to get in.
> 
> This change needs Qt 5.4, to get the new API that lets us enforce a 
> QSurfaceFormat, hence having it ifdef'd.
> I'm quite unaware of problems we might find. Knowing we probably want to work 
> in different embedded devices, suggests that OpenGLES on all platforms sounds 
> like a safe bet.
> 
> [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.mesa3d.devel/60848
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
>   shell/main.cpp e34578d 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119524/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> I'm using it now, without visible problems. Now we see no trace of i915 in 
> the massif reports.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
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> 
> before
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2014/07/28/5a6beb4f-24c0-4cee-a7a2-038385e35119__plasma-massif-opengl.png
> after
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2014/07/28/fc301ff5-cb1d-4654-a57f-82990220c8e3__plasma-massif-opengles.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Aleix Pol Gonzalez
> 
>

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