> On Juli 21, 2015, 7:03 vorm., Heiko Tietze wrote:
> > Nice presentation, as always. But I'm not so sure that the realization of
> > fading out quickly meets the needs from 'OSD is disturbing'. The second
> > when the OSD is shown is still annoying (interaction during the fading
> > might restart) and those who want to 'read' it need to reactivate the OSD.
> > The issue could be solved by some kind of 'dismiss' or 'don't show again'
> > interaction. Another simple way is to hide immediately on any key down, on
> > mouse click etc. If that all is not possible at the OSD itself, perhaps
> > because of security issues, a dialog (KCM) could help. And last but least
> > please consider to bind this feature to activities.
>
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > Another simple way is to hide immediately on any key down, on mouse
> click etc. If that all is not possible at the OSD itself, perhaps because of
> security issues
>
> For technical reasons the OSD is not able to recognize any (global) key
> or mouse click events on Wayland and on X11 only with a huge amount of nasty
> code. Also I don't think that this is a solution to the "annoying" - if I
> watch a video and change the volume through kdeconnect I don't have a
> keyboard.
>
> Anyway I would dismiss the "annoying" argument all together. If I compare
> to the amount of OSDs my TV, audio receiver is putting on the screen this is
> a really good OSD.
>
> Martin Klapetek wrote:
> > The second when the OSD is shown is still annoying and those who want
> to 'read' it need to reactivate the OSD
>
> I'm confused by that - does that say that the second it is on display is
> too much ("annoying") but not enough to read it?
>
> Can you perhaps file a bug and specify exactly what is "annoying" and we
> can discuss over there?
>
> Heiko Tietze wrote:
> I tried to point out that we have two goals here: read information and
> don't disturb. In case of volume the feedback as position on the slider (or
> kind of progress bar) is perceived in milliseconds but when you got an email
> you might want to read sender and subject. And if the user is elder it might
> take more time to grasp what happens.
>
> Martin Klapetek wrote:
> Ah, you're getting confused OSD with notifications. This does not apply
> to notifications at all, this is only the volume/brigthness/etc changes.
>
> Heiko Tietze wrote:
> If you limit the scope to very simple notification the solution might be
> okay (personally I fully agree with the faster the better). But didn't Martin
> Graesslin blog about what kind of OSD should be shown on the lock screen
> including the idea of email like on Android? What's about the information of
> time left watching a video, perhaps after you forward a few seconds via
> KDEConnect?
>
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> This is not about lock screen. Email notification on a lock screen needs
> a completely different solution than OSD.
>
> Martin Klapetek wrote:
> The OSD currently does four things and four things only - it shows up on
> volume change, screen brigthness change, keyboard brightness change and
> keyboard layout change. Everything else is a notification, which is the small
> bubble in bottom-left part of the screen and is different in every possible
> aspect than the OSD, which is what this patch adjusts.
Okay, thanks for clarification.
- Heiko
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On Juli 20, 2015, 8:19 nachm., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Juli 20, 2015, 8:19 nachm.)
>
>
> Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.
>
>
> Repository: plasma-workspace
>
>
> Description
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>
> This makes the OSD begin fading out over a long period of time immediately
> after it has shown. Makes the OSD less annoying while currently reading
> something or watching a video. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxmpwG-2saE
>
>
> Diffs
> -----
>
> lookandfeel/contents/osd/Osd.qml 2288ec1
> shell/osd.cpp 0573d51
>
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124409/diff/
>
>
> Testing
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>
> Works. Quite enjoyable. As suggested by mklapetek
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kai Uwe Broulik
>
>
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