On 12/18/2015 12:42 AM, Mark Gaiser wrote: > I consider that to be one of the biggest issues in plasma.
It's a case-by-case thing. The actual installed size of Noto depends a lot on how a distro choses to package it (split by writing system vs big monolothic package). If a reasonable subset of Noto's language coverage is installed it obviates the need for a lot of other fonts that would previously be installed by distros to achieve the same coverage, but contain plenty of redundant glyphs. A distro can well make the default install smaller by packaging and using Noto well, and you can expect distros - independent of KDE's decision - to come to this conclusion soon. It's a really useful font package. > If i report font issues, nobody is looking at them anyway. See [1] for > oxygen. That's disproven by the existence of this thread. The lack of maintenance for Oxygen is something we actively tried to solve, and when we couldn't, we addressed it by switching. IOW people definitely looked at it and that's why we're here now. > Besides, this is a google font so i would have to report it against > their bug tracker (github in this case i guess?). But what if the thing > i want to report is not a bug at all? To mee, it just looks that way > because it has too much line spacing. But the font just seems to be that > way so the font itself is probably not the problem here. Just using it > as desktop font is the problem and _that_ is where plasma comes in. "It's not what I like" != "it's a bug". We offer customization options for users to tailor the experience to their individual preferences. Defaults do matter very much, and I've made the case for why Noto is a good default that improves the experience for many users. Those users seem to have different needs from yours and you seem overly focused on yours. Users in a CJK country, with previous font setups, would see stuff like a clash of visually incongruent type faces within the same line if it mixed Latin and a CJK character set, and varying line heights if a line contained only the one or the other. This sort of mess is gone now. This does address real bug reports you could have (probably still can, tbh) find on BKO as well. (This was also the case with Latin/Cyrillic and Latin/Arabic mixes specifically on Oxygen, since Oxygen really only did Latin. And that's before you get into newer needs like emoji.) > If THAT combination isn't tested by google, then perhaps that > combination is not meant to used at all. Noto is the default sans-serif font family used on Google Chrome OS, for chrissakes. It was basically *made for Chrome*. > I'm not going to send you a screenshot. Just install the font and run > chromium. At first you will instantly notice the fonts looking weirdly > different with more space around them. Then you start noticing layout > breakage. Then you start wondering: "hmm, what screwed my system up this > time".. two days later you will figure out it's a font installed by plasma. I still don't see anything like this in Chrome here, FWIW. Cheers, Eike _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
