On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 12:05 PM, René J.V. <rjvber...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > This has been pending for a while, ever since we (= KDE/Mac) learned that the > kde4-workspace package was split up and integrated into KF5 Plasma, but it > may actually be relevant beyond "Plasma vs. the rest of the world" questions. > > I hope this can be discussed with a sufficient amount of open-mindedness and > flexibility. > > The KDE Workspace API docs page > (http://api.kde.org/4.9-api/kde-workspace-apidocs/index.html) kicks off with > a rather clear statement that seems a little, excusez le mot, short sighted: > > "This is where the components that are only used when KDE is providing a > complete desktop environment live." > > I do not want to contest that there are indeed such components in there. But > there are also components that *do* make sense outside of a full Plasma > session, components that were the initial and main reason we provide a > kde4-workspace port for OS X. > > At least part of the utilities provided by kde-cli-tools and an application > like systemsettings are definitely useful even when not running a full Plasma > session, as they are required to configure components that are independent of > the session type. Someone could want to use KMail under a Unity, Gnome or > KDE4 session, or use Konqueror5 ... and the same could be said for OS X or MS > Windows users. In fact, one of my main motives to bother with KDE and KF5 at > all is the fact that I use Kontact (KMail, KNode etc), and hope that one day > in a near future I will be able to upgrade from the KDE4 version I am using > at the moment. On OS X and on Linux systems which I may to keep to a KDE4 > desktop otherwise. > > kde-cli-tools and systemsettings5 are required to configure > 1 wallet settings (regardless of whether KWallet uses native KDE wallets or > an OS X keychain backend) Makes sense, probably should be moved to KWallet?
> 2 cookies and other html/browser related settings What does it configure? is it only for KHtml? > 3 akonadi/PIM settings It should probably go to PIM. > 4 fonts, icons and palette settings > 5 style settings > 6 interface settings like "click once or twice to open", "show icons in > buttons/menus" etc. Here, it should integrate with the OS, IMHO. Like Plasma, OS X should have a place where to configure those. I don't think it's fair of us to ask the users on OS X to know the application is special and that they need to go to a special place to configure some details of how the application is going to behave. Regarding kio-cli-tools, these should be cross-platform and were never meant to be part of plasma. It probably would even make sense to move it to KDE Applications now? Aleix _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
