raddison added a comment.

  In D16031#368991 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D16031#368991>, @ngraham wrote:
  
  > In D16031#368953 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D16031#368953>, @raddison 
wrote:
  >
  > > I've also looked at the test plan and it's not exactly a stroke of genius 
if it looks like 
https://phabricator.kde.org/file/data/w3iyc7eov3ys6kmhrwi7/PHID-FILE-nya3nyqpjbmnijijvlwm/Screenshot_20181129_233236.png
  >
  >
  > You have two options:
  >
  > - Stop insulting people and their work
  > - Go away
  >
  >   Coming up with realistic solutions to difficult and controversial issues 
is hard. We have gone over a bunch of different designs and all of them have 
strengths and weaknesses. You are welcome to propose alternatives in T9658 
<https://phabricator.kde.org/T9658>, but please do it with respect. Thanks.
  
  
  @ngraham With all due respect I have not insulted anyone or anything. I have 
expressed my point of view with regard to a **thing** and not **a person**. Why 
is it needed to fix something that is already the best possible solution? You 
have also stated that the desktop has to adapt to the user and not the other 
way around. Very generous concept but unrealistic. As things stand right now, 
the login in Plasma is at least on par if not better than what Windows, Deepin 
or Android have. **Blur + a tint of dark make the controls perfectly visible, 
even if the background is very bright or white.** The same holds true for both 
the lock screen and the login screen. You have also stated that people are 
complaining about the login/lock screens without quantifying their complaints 
in any way whatsoever (e.g. satisfaction/dissatisfaction ratio?). Which is a 
methodological flaw. Your argument boils down to "I want to see the wallpaper". 
Fine.
  
  Whether we are talking about the login screen or the lock screen, things are 
similar.
  
  You only see the blurred + slightly tinted login or lock screen for a very 
brief span of time (when you log-in). At all other times you can see the 
wallpaper or the wallpaper with a date and time. If auto login is enabled you 
will boot into the login screen but after a brief span of time (set by default 
or the user) the login screen will time-out into a wallpaper with a date and 
time. At that moment, if you move the mouse, the login screen will show up but 
as soon as you stop interacting, the login screen will time-out again. I'm 
uploading some screenshots in defense of what I think to be a masterpiece of 
Plasma that shouldn't be tempered with then I'll rest my case. I should have 
used Neon but Solus Plasma will do just fine.
  F6453369: Screenshot_20181203_205943.png 
<https://phabricator.kde.org/F6453369>
  
  F6453371: Screenshot_20181203_191226.png 
<https://phabricator.kde.org/F6453371>
  
  F6453373: Screenshot_20181203_201310.png 
<https://phabricator.kde.org/F6453373>
  
  F6453378: Screenshot_20181203_205228.png 
<https://phabricator.kde.org/F6453378>
  
  Kind regards, my friend. I have nothing but positive feelings towards you and 
your hard work is worthy of our admiration. I'm blunt, yes, but no insult 
whatsoever had been intended.

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