Would be nice to see you contributing to this effort Dani and you
already seem to know the affected projects.

Best regards, Lars

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:07 AM Daniel Megert <daniel_meg...@ch.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Everyone can do this ;-).
>
> Dani
>
>
>
> From:        Lars Vogel <lars.vo...@vogella.com>
> To:        "Eclipse platform general developers list." 
> <platform-dev@eclipse.org>
> Date:        09.05.2019 10:49
> Subject:        Re: [platform-dev] API changes in SDK
> Sent by:        platform-dev-boun...@eclipse.org
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> > One important addition here: some plug-ins and even the default workspace
>
> Dani, please open a bug for that and list the project which uses this
> project setting. We should adjust that.
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:42 AM Daniel Megert <daniel_meg...@ch.ibm.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Andrey for this reminder!
> >
> > > If after that you see API errors in the workspace,
> >
> > One important addition here: some plug-ins and even the default workspace 
> > have some problems being reported as warning. So, you also need to check 
> > whether there are new API related warnings. Even better, make sure that 
> > minor and major version issues (Version Management tab) are set to 'Error' 
> > on your project(s) and in your workspaces.
> >
> > Dani
> >
> >
> >
> > From:        Andrey Loskutov <losku...@gmx.de>
> > To:        platform-dev@eclipse.org
> > Date:        08.05.2019 21:20
> > Subject:        [platform-dev] API changes in SDK
> > Sent by:        platform-dev-boun...@eclipse.org
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If you do *not* contribute or review contributions for Eclipse platform
> > SDK, stop reading this mail NOW!
> >
> > I wanted to remind you about some simple rules for Eclipse SDK
> > development, which are mandatory for all committers.
> >
> > If the commit you want to merge contains an API change, *before* merge
> > you should *always* load the patch into your IDE and run a clean build
> > on related project.
> >
> > Before doing so you should also make sure API tooling is properly
> > configured, you use right API baseline and preferences are properly set:
> >
> > Preferences -> Plug in Development -> [x] Workspace Plug-Ins override
> > target platform plugins...
> > Preferences -> Plug in Development -> [ ] Disable API builder (must be
> > unset!)
> > Preferences -> Plug in Development -> Target Platform is set to "Running
> > Platform" and you are using a recent nightly SDK build.
> > Preferences -> Plug in Development -> API Baselines -> [x]
> > _latest_release_ (must be created manually and point to plain SDK
> > installation of the last official SDK release).
> >
> > If after that you see API errors in the workspace, please consider to
> > read the proposed solution, compare that with the information you can
> > get at [1], [2] and [3] and apply appropriated fix (or "-1" on the
> > Gerrit patch).
> >
> > There can be multiple possible API error fixes proposed by PDE, but only
> > one can be the right one - unfortunately we still require the power of
> > human brain to apply the *right* fix.
> >
> > Please also note: human and computer make mistakes. Nobody is perfect,
> > API tooling too. In doubt, ask on the list, but do not start *decrement*
> > bundle versions or blindly increment them (because this always fixes the
> > error, however may introduce a bigger one).
> >
> > Basic rule is: during a development cycle (e.g. 4.12) we only increment
> > one version segment *one time* according to the rules [1], [2] and [3].
> > Only in case of human errors we have to bump the same version segment
> > twice (once the wrong version is built and *published* we can't simply
> > revert it so we must increase again...). We never decrement versions if
> > they were already published via official SDK build.
> >
> > Decision about *which* bundle version segment to change should be always
> > based on [1], [2] and [3], not just on PDE "quick fix" proposals. In
> > doubt - ask on the list.
> >
> > Sure this is all complicated, sure this makes our life not easier and
> > sure this could be improved and fully automated. But as long as we don't
> > have an absolutely perfect, fully automated process we *must* follow the
> > rules above.
> >
> > There are also few places where you can help:
> > - Setup and use API tooling in your SDK workspace. Do it NOW!
> > - Improve API tooling by contributing to PDE. There are known bugs and
> > there are known performance issues, but if nobody helps, they will stay
> > forever.
> > - Contribute more maven checks that do *more* API checks during Gerrit
> > build.
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.eclipse.org/Version_Numbering
> > [2] https://wiki.eclipse.org/Evolving_Java-based_APIs
> > [3] https://wiki.eclipse.org/Evolving_Java-based_APIs_2
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrey
> >
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> > Andrey Loskutov
> >
> > https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov
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