On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:27 AM Wim Jongman <wim.jong...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Should we not support older versions of Eclipse?
>>>
>>
>> There is 2 years notice period so I would say do not support versions
>> older than 2 years.
>>
>
> We provide LTS so it is not possible for everyone. It would also not catch
> the API break in the i-build.
>

API is deprecated for at least 2 years before being removed so if a project
has deprecations free build with the 2 years old version it will work fine
with the latest release.


>
> 1. The person that proposes the API change makes an impact analysis by
>>> searching all the Eclipse repositories, removal is abandoned if used > x%
>>> 2. Removal of API is sent to the mailing list of the project that uses
>>> the API so that we can fix things in time, especially when the project is
>>> in maintenance mode.
>>>
>>
>> 1. and 2. are not realistic if we go that path why don't we add Spring
>> Tools or JBoss Tools which are one of the widely used plugins out there.
>> Why not add Pydev too? Requiring to subscribe to project list to notify is
>> a bit too much for me. There is a reason we have cross-project list.
>> Effectively this proposal is to never ever change anything and let Eclipse
>> Platform collapse under its own weight where we keep shipping multiple ways
>> to do things - each with its own oddities.
>>
>
> Yes, we should add them as well. It is also about the thousands of
> consumers that we don't know.
>
> And I really don't think that leaving three lines in Platform will cause
> Eclipse to collapse under its own weight. Java has never removed a
> deprecated method or an API class. AFAICT, they are fine :)
>

That ^^ is no longer true for Java too.
https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/jdk-11-relnote.html#Removed
and continues in newer versions.


>
> Cheers,
>
> Wim
>
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