Interesting - there are two paints points caused by Christmas. My perception is that the release is too close to Christmas and that we can't support users well (in a timely manner) after the 2020-12 release because of it.
But from the dev perspective, the -03 M1 date is too soon after Christmas. For the platform there were essentially no days to do anything in M1 for devs who didn't start work until 4 Jan again. The interesting thing is that the proposal to bring the 2020-12 release 1 week earlier does lead to a longer M1 period. From early Dec until mid Jan. WDYT Wim? And others? Thanks Jonah On Mon., Jan. 11, 2021, 08:28 Wim Jongman, <wim.jong...@gmail.com> wrote: > You asked for opinions. My opinion is that the schedule pain is not in the > december release but in the march release, > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 2:22 PM Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurt...@redhat.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:19 PM Wim Jongman <wim.jong...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Assuming everyone starts again Jan 2, there are about 10 workdays for >>> March M1. I prefer combining March M1 and M2 over shortening December. >>> >> >> How would that help the goal to have some time for reaction between >> December release and Christmas? >> >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Wim >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:03 PM Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurt...@redhat.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Planning council discusses moving one week earlier the 2021-12 release >>>> so there is time for reaction (if there is need for it) before Christmas. >>>> Personally I think the proposal makes sense and the best way is by >>>> shortening the December cycle, that way it will be more like the March one >>>> (which loses M1 time due to Christmas vacations). >>>> Let me know if there are objections/proposals/opinions with reasons >>>> behind them so I can present the Eclipse TLP opinion on the next meeting. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:56 PM Mélanie Bats <melanie.b...@obeo.fr> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Le 06/01/2021 à 16:49, Jonah Graham a écrit : >>>>> > Thanks folks for the discussion this morning/afternoon. >>>>> > >>>>> > As mentioned in the meeting we will continue this discussion once we >>>>> > have dates. >>>>> >>>>> I prepared the schedule for 2021-06, 2021-09 and 2021-12. >>>>> Please review it on the wiki and confirm that it is okay for you by >>>>> answering to this email: >>>>> * https://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:SimRel-2021-06 >>>>> * https://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:SimRel-2021-09 >>>>> * https://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:SimRel-2021-12 >>>>> >>>>> For the 2021-12, if we follow the classical pattern we will have >>>>> mostly >>>>> the same release date as the one this year. >>>>> If we would like to have one week between the GA and the holidays, we >>>>> can reduce M1 dev period for this release by one week and then release >>>>> on December 8th. >>>>> >>>>> 2021-12 M1 Friday, October 08, 2021 10/01 to 10/08 >>>>> *2 weeks from 2021-09 GA* >>>>> 2021-12 M2 Friday, November 5, 2021 10/22 to 10/29 >>>>> 3 weeks from M1 >>>>> 2021-12 M3 Friday, November 19, 2021 11/12 to 11/19 >>>>> 3 weeks from M2 >>>>> 2021-12 RC1 Friday, November 26, 2021 11/19 to 11/26 >>>>> 1 week from M3 >>>>> 2021-12 RC2 Friday, December 3, 2021 11/26 to 12/03 >>>>> 1 week from RC1 >>>>> Quiet period 12/03 to 12/07 >>>>> 2021-12 GA Wednesday, December 8, 2021 >>>>> 5 days from RC2 >>>>> >>>>> What do you think? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> -- >>>>> Mélanie Bats >>>>> CTO >>>>> +33 7 87 69 42 84 >>>>> +33 5 34 57 16 29 >>>>> @melaniebats >>>>> >>>>> *Obeo* >>>>> 25 Boulevard Victor Hugo - Colomiers - France >>>>> http://www.obeo.fr >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> eclipse.org-planning-council mailing list >>>>> eclipse.org-planning-coun...@eclipse.org >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse.org-planning-council >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alexander Kurtakov >>>> Red Hat Eclipse Team >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> platform-dev mailing list >>>> platform-dev@eclipse.org >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> platform-dev mailing list >>> platform-dev@eclipse.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, visit >>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alexander Kurtakov >> Red Hat Eclipse Team >> _______________________________________________ >> platform-dev mailing list >> platform-dev@eclipse.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev >> > _______________________________________________ > platform-dev mailing list > platform-dev@eclipse.org > To unsubscribe from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev >
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