Thanks, Hannes for clarifying the possiblity to transfer an issue.
That's good to know.

Anyhow: I want to stress the user's perspective -- it's way to easy to
get confused.

I just wanted to file a bug report and thought I might give github
issues a try. But where to go? I tried the github search with various
combinations of "eclipse ui", "eclipse platform", etc. -- which all
turned up search results of other people's projects, but never a
relevant eclipse project at the top. So I ended up posting it to
bugzilla ...

Sorry, but from a "simple user's perspective" this is a great way to cut
away the feedback loop to the users, make users give up, and turn away
from eclipse ...

There needs to be some guidance for the casual reporter of issues at an
entry point that's easy to find.
PLUS: I like bugzilla's list of probably related bugs -- so I don't file
a duplicate too easily.

(and maybe part of the confusion is that Eclipse is often used as
synonym for "Eclipse IDE", not even realizing that "Eclipse IDE" should
be the full name of the product, but understanding IDE simply as a
descriptive term and taking "Eclipse" as the product name ... I know
it's like saying "I use Microsoft for writing documents", but all
developers I usually meet and talk to speak [and probably think] simply
of "Eclipse" when they actually mean "Eclipse IDE"...)

Dirk

Am 26.03.2022 um 12:22 schrieb Hannes Wellmann:
It is possible to move issues between repositories on GitHub, see [1],
and it is also possible to link issues in other repositories by
mentioning them.
Although it is simpler for those that handle bugs to assign them to
the correct repository directly, I agree that it can be difficult to
find out which one the correct repo is, especially if one is not
deeply involved into Eclipse development.
To help those people maybe it would be useful to create a repo at
https://github.com/eclipse/ide (or similar) that is de-facto empty and
where users can report bugs for which they don't know the responsible
project/repository for. The bugs could then be transferred to the
correct repo by committers that can identify the responsible repository.
But I assume there is definitely the risk that managing such a common
bug-tracker becomes quite a great task that consumes too many
resources. So bug reports should be encouraged to only use it as last
resort and there should be good documentation/guidelines for reporters
to find the appropriated repo by them self.
[1] -
https://docs.github.com/en/issues/tracking-your-work-with-issues/transferring-an-issue-to-another-repository
*Gesendet:* Samstag, 26. März 2022 um 11:07 Uhr
*Von:* "Dirk Steinkamp" <dirk.steink...@gmx.de>
*An:* "Eclipse platform general developers list."
<platform-dev@eclipse.org>
*Betreff:* Re: [platform-dev] Intended Bug-Tracker for
Platform-projects hosted on GitHub

Speaking from someone who only recently made a first contribution to
Eclipse, but has been using Eclipse for years and occasionally
reported issues, I have to say that already the many existing project
are simply confusing to pick from when a user simply wants to report
something. The bugzilla seems to have the option to later (re)assign
it to the correct subproject.

This doesn't get better with all the different eclipse-subprojects
hosting their own github-projects with separate issue trackers, as you
can't move issues from one github-project to the other, right? It's
also lacking an integrated overview of issues that might be related,
but affect different subprojects.

So I'd favour something that can provide overarching, integrating
capabilities - be it bugzilla, or something else.

Dirk

Am 26.03.2022 um 09:42 schrieb Hannes Wellmann:

    At the moment it is not clear to me (maybe I have missed
    something) if I should still use Bugzilla or instead the Github
    Issues of for Eclipse-projects that were moved to Github?
    IIRC to was not the plan to shutdown the associated Bugzilla now,
    but does this also mean that bugs should still be reported there
    or should GH issues be used for that as soon as a project was moved?
    At the moment I have the impression both is used, which is IMHO
    not ideal but probably hard to avoid in a transition phase.
    Thanks,
    Hannes

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