> On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Tomasz Pala <go...@polanet.pl> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 17:00:23 -0400, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
> 
>>> downgrading from repackage lost config files,
>>> i.e saved them as .rpmsave leaving original path missing
> [...]
>> What exactly are you expecting?
> 
> If previous (modified) configs were moved to .rpmsave, anyone should
> expect package-provided files to be put in place.
> 

That depends on the ordering of remove vs install.

RPM (and most of its algorithms) depends on install-before-erase.

The mere fact that files were renamed to *.rpmsave indicates that 
remove-before-install
was occurring.

>> I see rpm renaming modified %config files to *.rpmsave exactly as always, 
>> nothing more.
> 
> But doesn't install files that were to replace them.
> 

Really? There is nothing in the e-mail report that indicates that files were 
not installed.

There is an indication that the original (and modified) contents were renamed 
and had to be manually
moved back into place.

Again, I do not know what is “expected” … what is being reported is what I 
expect to see
(and there is no “loses” in renaming to *.rpmsave).

(aside)
Yes having to deal with %config renaming is quite tedious. I personally believe
that all of %config is fabulously broken and useless. Meanwhile, my obligation 
is to ensure
that the current mechanism “works” in rpm exactly as it is supposed to work, 
not otherwise.

>> FWIW: there is no ???downgrade in rpm, and flipping various bits in polled 
>> to disable version comparisons
>> and file conflicts in order to achieve ???downgrade??? has almost nothing to 
>> do with %config handling.
> 
> I guess this is related to using repackaged.rpm. These types of packages
> are known to have manifest different than real contents, so while installing
> one might expect such behavior.
> 

I’m not sure how repackaged rpm’s are involved: that isn’t entirely clear from 
the report.

Yes, the header’s in repackaged *.rpm’s have additional tags (of a doubly 
linked package upgrade
chain) appended. And repackaged *.rpm’s are *entirely* best effort. Content may 
be missing and/or
modified: whatever is on the file system when the repackaging occurs is what is 
loaded into
the repackaged rpm.

There is nothing in the report that indicates the necessary disablers were 
used: you can *NOT*
just reinstall a repackaged package without additional flags. Presumably those 
additional
flags are buried in the —downgrade alias added by PLD. I have little experience 
(and
certainly no test cases) with how rpm behaves with PLD modifications.

Better could and should be done in rpm. But it takes more than repeated 
complaints of “losing”
or “destroying” %config files from heavily modified versions of rpm to achieve 
development.

Meanwhile RPM is doing exactly what I expect, knowing what is implemented.

73 de Jeff
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