I never said that we shouldn't do accelerated 2d/3d........, in fact I think
that we should!!! However, not everyone will be using this to play QuakeIII
either!!! It is more my belief that we, should focus first on having a
working video structure that supports many plug-in options: VGA 3.0, VESA,
fullscreen, a good emulated/virualized 2d/3d card...., etc. I mean, how
many simple curses-based DOS apps are going to need fast 3D emulation? Not
many so far as I know...... Therefore, it would make the most sense to me
to try to implement all of the video options above--and give the end user
some real ability to manage flexibility vs. clock cycles sucked up making a
video implementation function. That way, if they just plan on using plex86
as a safe DOS sandbox for their x86 assembly projects (like me) then they
can do that. Also, by the same token, if Jay Gamer wants to run side-by
side QuakeIII windows on his machine then he should be able to tell the
machine to do so & also to run a good 2d/3d graphics virtualization to boot!
Drew Northup, N1XIM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of sdv-univ
> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 6:02 PM
> To: Drew Northup
> Subject: Re[2]: [Re: plex86 video proposal]
>
>
> > Yes.., all of this is true...., but I think that, like the fullscreen
> > proposal & standard VGA (which seems to be under control for just strict
> > emulation), this is one area that might be worth a good hard look. One
> > thing that I would like to know is how to set the V-scan rate on a VESA
> > system so that I can have my high-res text modes back in
> LINUX!!! I spent a
> > large sum of money to get a flatscreen & it only does up to 75Hz!!! Oh
> > well.., you get what you pay for ;^)!!
>
> Hmm... I believe that no acceleration (just VGA) for windowed mode is
> perhaps a little bit too restrictive, and a strong 3d support is a
> little bit non-trivial to implement for windowed mode, so maybe 2d
> acceleration-only is a good balance for windowed mode. Fullscreen mode,
> if that would be possible to implement, should of course provide
> direct access to native features, including 3d as well..
> I think VESA VBE 3.0 has the possibility of changing the rates,
> however I haven't checked it. I think by the time V3 was out, the
> importance of VESA has been sufficiently decreased (though VESA is
> nice and worth to support but is not enough nowadays).
> Uhus
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