>From: Drew Northup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Working with students as part of a class [plex86]
>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:06:30 -0400
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>"Dr. Yasha Karant" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:06:11AM -0500, Jos? Enrique Alvarez Estrada
>wrote:
> > > > --- Joaquim Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi?:
> > [snip]
> > >
> > [snip]
> >
> > I do not care if the person who is "leading" a project be a professor,
> > a PostDoc, a Grad Student, an undergrad, or a 5 year old. I do care
>that
> > the person understands the basic computer science involved (and not
> > just as a technician/programmer/coder but as a computer scientist or
> > informatician depending whether the discipline is Computer Science or
> > Informatics in the region in which the work is being done -- naming
> > nomenclature only). I know colleagues who are outstanding computer
> > science theoreticians, and whom I would not let near a real software
> > engineering project.
>
>I'm an engineer. I just happen to do computers--and have for about 14
>of my 21 (soon to be 22) years. I'm getting a degree in Computer
>Engineering too--as if that matters when it comes to managing a
>project.
Me too, but I´m one year elder. I thought you were elder than me!.
What is really important is that the leader:
>
>Be zealos about the continuance of the project
>Be courteous to other project members
>Be able to commit a great deal of time to things other than actual
>project work that will help sustain the project
>Be sure of what needs to be done, when, and how
>Be capable of division of labor and organization (I may not be able to
>clean my room some days, but on those days I certainly can manage to
>tell other people what needs to get done)
>Be committed to quality work--not quantity; as an engineer I care more
>how well it works than how many we made
>Be able to set valid and useful goals
>Be persistant
>
> > They may indeed be students and/or amateurs by any legal definition;
> > functionally, they must be experienced professionals. That
> > was one of the major shortcomings of Linux versus BSD -- Linux started
> > as a very amateur effort, whereas BSD from the beginning was done by
> > professionals.
>
>I agree about professionalism. Unfortunately that isn't something that
>you can get a degree it. It just happens to some people--and not to
>others. It is very much like the force--but instead of just Anakin, we
>all have it if we wish to make ourselves try to find it.
>
>One man I have worked with in the past once gave a speech on Respect &
>Responsibility--the only two rules that you need in life. You will find
>that this is true. They are the definition of professionalism. Once
>you have that you just need some idea as to what you are doing.
>
>I don't want to boast, chide, or anything of the like--but that is the
>reason why Kevin let me take over this project. I aspire to the rules
>of Respect and Responsibility--and I hope that others here feel the same
>about their basic essence that I do.
>
>Lets get coding, debugging, and working as a group--PLEASE!
I don´t use to write very much, but as you must know yet, I´m with you. I´m
sorry because of my rare interventions but I don´t have got a regular
connection to the Internet.
In Spanish: No suelo escribir mucho, pero como ya debes saber, estoy
contigo. Siento que mis intervenciones sean pocas pero no tengo conexión
regular a la Internet.
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