On May 8, 2012, at 4:36 PM, David Glick wrote:

> On 5/8/12 3:34 PM, Dylan Jay wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I noticed https://dev.plone.org/ticket/10959 has now been dropped from
>> your list. It's implemented but I need to know if its worth the effort
>> in finishing the last remaining test failures. I've asked advice on if
>> the FWT wants the implementation or not (see last comment 9 days ago).
>> Is this the advice?
>> BTW This PLIP has been open almost 2 years. I'd like see some kind of
>> resolution to password validation in plone.
>> 
>> 
> Hey Dylan. I'm sorry we've been dropping the ball on your PLIP since Ross 
> stepped down from being its champion. (In the case of today's meeting, we 
> accidentally overlooked a section of our spreadsheet which included this 
> PLIP.)
> 
> I just familiarized myself with the code, past reviews and conversation, and 
> my personal feeling is that this is a good change and while there are 
> reasonable concerns raised in the reviews, we shouldn't let the perfect be 
> the enemy of the good.
> 
> To touch on some of the specific items that were outstanding in the reviews:
> * Yiorgis raised the issue of the initial generated password not necessarily 
> being compliant with the validation, but you pointed out that this is not a 
> problem because the user never sees the initial password. That makes sense to 
> me, so I think this concern is resolved.
> * Yiorgis and Ross both raised concerns about whether the PAS API should be 
> extended (to support limits on password age, say, or to support providing 
> more specific help text for the password field on a registration form). I 
> agree these are ideas worth considering, but they are outside the scope of 
> this PLIP (which is just a tiny change in Plone to make use of the existing 
> PAS API), orthogonal to it, and should not be blockers.
> * Ross said he hadn't tested to make sure the validation is applied during 
> the password reset process. Can you or someone else please verify that this 
> works?
> * Ross mentioned a test failure in CMFPlone (testGeneratePassword). This 
> looks trivial to fix if it hasn't been already so we can handle it during 
> merge.
> * Vincent brought up an i18n concern at 
> https://github.com/plone/plone.app.users/pull/2/files#L1R250 which looks 
> valid to me. Can you fix that?
> * I think you still need to add an upgrade step to plone.app.upgrade to 
> install the plugin for upgraded sites.
> 

For me, the test case and upgrade steps should definitely be handled. I'm more 
concerned about the documentation as a test case than anything (I can't find it 
anymore actually...). I *think* this should be in the community dev manual.

Liz




> Any opinions from the rest of you FWT folks?  This seems like too much of an 
> easy win to me to let it drag out longer.
> David
> 
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