When I wrote the email, I forgot I might be on jury duty that day--there is a possibility I won't be able to make it to the meeting :(
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Giacomo Spettoli <giacomo.spett...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 07/04/2014 06:55 PM, Nathan Van Gheem wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Giacomo Spettoli < > giacomo.spett...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> While we can all agree that Rok as made a good job so far, I think we >> have to fully realize what he just said: the main author of the front-end >> of plone5 is leaving the project! This is even more dangerous since the >> front-end should have been (and maybe will be) the "shimmering thing" to >> attract once more new customers to Plone. >> >> We ended up in this shitty situation since we, as a community, made the >> big mistake of putting all our energy on just very few people. >> > How is this avoided though? Do we just not do the work? Rok did everything > he could to get more people involved--just not much interest. Or if there > was, that interest wasn't sustained. > > > This is not a technical problem, the FWT cannot fix it. It's more of a > management matter. But...I wrote the original mail on Friday so I was > polemic pointlessly. > > > > >> >> This said, I think that all the FWT members that consider them self still >> active should really try hard to be online this Tuesday to discuss the plan >> to reach p5. Here some questions that need an answer: >> >> - What do we do now? How can we organize the work for not being stuck in >> this situation again? >> > FWIW, I'll be taking ownership of mockup... > > > Excellent! > > > > >> - how much man power do we have? Should we continue based on the >> volunteers' effort only or should we try to involve more the companies that >> may have the strength to finish this? >> > - Should we collect all the info and try to finish mockup? or should we >> start from scratch basing our effort on the latest best frameworks >> (Angular, React...xyz) >> > I'm sorry, but the idea of starting from scratch here seems ridiculous. > Some of mockup uses React. Mockup isn't forcing the use of any particular > js tech necessarily. > > > Me too I think there's no time for starting from scratch obviously. And it > would be a waste of energy/money. > My intent was to put all the options on the table and so I was being > provocative on purpose ;) > > > > We're not that far off. Ramon and I are organizing a sprint around the > idea of finishing up mockup integration with plone. > > > Nice, so the meeting of tomorrow will be a perfect occasion to collect all > the needs and see if somebody else can jump in and help you two. > For example, at the time, I already offered my help for improving the > documentation and make it fit into the current doc base. > > > > >> - should we involve the board in this discussion? (I think yes, >> definitely!) >> >> Hope to see all of you guys online thuesday to discuss all this :) >> > I'll be on. > > > Perfect, thanks! > > cheers, > Giacomo > > > > >> cheers, >> Giacomo >> >> >> On 06/24/2014 07:14 PM, Roel Bruggink wrote: >> >> Thank you for everything so far, Rok. >> Come join us for some beer if you are in the Netherlands again! ;) >> >> -Roel >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Rok Garbas <r...@garbas.si> wrote: >> >>> hi guys, >>> >>> last month i've been unactive since i was on a quest to learn surfing >>> (some >>> call this vacation). with july i'm starting to work in berlin in a >>> position >>> which does not involve any plone development, therefore i would like to >>> step >>> down as a framework team member since i will have very little or no time >>> for >>> plone in comming year. >>> >>> thank you for all the patience you had with me. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rok Garbas - http://www.garbas.si >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Framework-Team mailing list >>> framework-t...@lists.plone.org >>> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Roel Bruggink >> http://www.fourdigits.nl/mensen/roel-bruggink >> >> Four Digits BV >> http://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31(0)26 4422700 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Giacomo Spettoli >> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/giacomospettoli >> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/giacomospettoli >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Framework-Team mailing list >> framework-t...@lists.plone.org >> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team >> >> > > > -- > Nathan Van Gheem > Solutions Architect > Wildcard Corp > > > > -- > > Giacomo Spettoli > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/giacomospettoli > LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/giacomospettoli > > -- Nathan Van Gheem Solutions Architect Wildcard Corp
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