Hi Phil,
Yes, mixing 64-bits and 32-bits is something you need to avoid. I remember
having trouble somewhere along the line where Cmake was picking up different
versions than I expected. Or something like that.
Well, I will try and see about nmake anyway, but there is no big hurry. That is
good to know.
Regards,
Arjen
From: Phil Rosenberg [mailto:philip_rosenb...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 2:25 PM
To: Arjen Markus
Cc: PLplot development list
Subject: RE: [Plplot-devel] tcl build problem
Cheers Arjen
I remember having some problems with nmake and the 64 bit and 32 bit developer
command lines, but I can't remember what the results were. As I only use the
visual studio generators it's not imperative for me that this gets dealt with.
I was only using nmake so Alan could get some extra debug info.
Phil
________________________________
From: Arjen Markus<mailto:arjen.mar...@deltares.nl>
Sent: 01/09/2014 08:38
To: phil rosenberg<mailto:philip_rosenb...@yahoo.com>
Cc: PLplot development list<mailto:plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: RE: [Plplot-devel] tcl build problem
Hi Phil,
I have given this matter some more thought, as the problem did seem familiar.
If I remember correcrly, I have seen it as a consequence of a mixup of nmake
with gcc or something similar. I will try and reproduce it.
Regards,
Arjen
From: Arjen Markus [mailto:arjen.mar...@deltares.nl]
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:30 PM
To: Alan W. Irwin; phil rosenberg
Cc: PLplot development list
Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] tcl build problem
Hi Phil, Alan,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan W. Irwin [mailto:ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca]
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 9:08 PM
>
> > 2) I tried using the nmake generator. It failed. It tried to build a
> test program to test the compiler, which failed - cl.exe reported "could not
> find
> kernel32.lib." Therefore as CMAKE was unable to find a working c compiler it
> exited.
> This is obviously ridiculous as I clearly have a working c compiler.
>
> Can't help you there, but I bet Arjen can since he routinely uses the nmake
> generator
> without such issues.
>
A missing kernel32.lib is very strange: it is one of the system libraries and
it is used in just about any program.
What happens if you compile a simpel C program manually: cl dummy.c?
> > 3) I unfortunately don't have time to start fighting with the NMake
> generator so I am returning back to the visual studio generator.
>
> Fair enough. I should tone down the negative things I said about the visual
> studio
> generators since you obviously got one of them to work.
>
> But I will say this: there are lots of such visual studio generators and at
> least one new
> one each year so CMake development resources to flush out the bugs are spread
> thin. In comparison nmake has been around forever so that generator is
> completely
> mature. Also, in your case the VS generator worked, but that may be because
> it is
> relatively mature, and when you update your VS version you will also have to
> update
> to a newer VS generator to be consistent with it. So in that case you might
> run into
> issues for a while until the genrator matures.
> Therefore, in my view it is always worthwhile to have the nmake generator
> available
> so I hope Arjen responds above to get you squared away with nmake to use as a
> reliable fallback when needed.
>
I find the variety of generators confusing myself. Especially since the version
numbers/names of the various VS’s are confusing too.
>
> In the long term, the solution is for a volunteer or group of such volunteers
> to create a
> free software distribution for Windows that enforces a self-consistent set of
> packaging rules for each free software package that is included in that
> particular
> distro. Cygwin is already one such effort (in this case backed by RedHat
> rather than
> volunteers), and MinGW-w64/MSYS2 is another such distribution that has been
> put
> together quite recently by volunteers and is rapidly gaining mindshare. So
> if this and
> similar volunteer efforts continue to expand, the known current issues with
> binary
> distribution of individual packages on Windows should eventually no longer be
> of
> concern.
>
That is definitely a worthwhile goal – I know some people are awed by the
complexity of building third-party software and therefore decide against using
it. This is more important on Windows than on Linux. The “wild west” situation
Alan describes is one of the culprits.
Regards,
Arjen
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