+1 Brian regarding the "more efficient distros" Been there done that and spent months hunting for things and tweaking, and finally just gave up and went back to Ubuntu. I recently changed from Unity to KDE. While I didn't really hate Unity, I have come to appreciate the additional options and level of customization that KDE has to offer. I'm running Kubuntu 14.04 and other than having to adjust the sound preset level (which was set too loo), so far no problems.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:39 PM, <kitepi...@kitepilot.com> wrote: > HA! > Maybe I learn something after all... > I did learn to hate KDE years ago when there were so many things running > under the hood that it killed all performance. > Unity I just can't digest it... > I'll install a KDE virtual and give it a try, I may change my mind! > Rant away! 8-) > ET > > > Brian Cluff writes: > >> On 06/21/2014 11:05 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: >> >>> And/or the M$-like bloated KDE. >>> >> >> Since your ranting, I will too... >> I really hate seeing people continue to spread that KDE is bloated. It >> might have been true in the KDE 3.5 days, but these days it's quite small. >> As far as ram usage it isn't the smallest, but in the class of the full >> featured desktops it's usually among the lowest. It's certainly lower >> memory usage than both Unity and Gnome. >> Even if it wasn't lower, why would you throw out all the time saving, >> integration you get with KDE for what amounts to the ram space of a single >> dollar worth of ram that you get back with the use of one of the "lean" >> desktops. >> I've watched people use the "more efficient" distros over and over and >> spend a ton of time trying to get the features that are built into the >> "bloated" distos. >> ...and if your answer to why you have to run a slim distro is that your >> machine is too old to run anything else, I would recommend spending one of >> the hours that you'll be spending trying to get your machine to work right >> or waiting for the machine to process something and mow your neighbors >> lawn. The money you will make from a single lawn mowing job would buy a >> computer that will run a lot better than that or at least buy enough ram to >> have your current computer run without you having to worry about it. >> Remember that once the libraries are loaded the apps themselves don't >> really take much more ram. I once had a machine with only 4 gigs of RAM >> serving up KDE desktops to 45 xterms, and it usually had a couple of gigs >> free...amazing. >> Unless your talking about running very specific programs in an embedded >> environment, it's better to pick a desktop that makes your life easier, >> especially when any of the desktops out these are smaller that a single >> copy of firefox with a single tab open to a single web page. If I could >> find an environment that would save me a bunch of time but used 4 times as >> much RAM as the largest Linux desktop, I would happily run it. >> As for your M$-like comment, other than the initial layout which can be >> easily changed to pretty much anything you want, I don't see it. Even if >> it was more M$-like, what's wrong with incorporating some of the better >> features that windows had (Yes, past tense). I'm no MS lover, but not >> everything MS did was garbage. It would be foolish to implement everything >> "different" just because that's the way it was done by someone/something >> that you don't like. >> And just to clear things up, KDE is an open source port of the >> proprietary (at the time) CDE, which predates the windows look that >> Microsoft adopted for windows 95. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment >> If anything, Microsoft copied the layout from CDE, not KDE from M$. >> Another thing to consider, is that KDE has kept a similar initial layout >> to it's interface for almost 20 years and almost all changes have been very >> incremental often times with a way to use the legacy interface, so there >> has never been a need to completely relearn everything just because a newer >> version of the distro comes out that they felt the need to continue to call >> the same name even though it's now sporting a completely different >> interface... I"m looking at you Ubuntu and Gnome. >> OK, rant over.. I have to end it or I'll go on all day. >> Brian Cluff >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- James *Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/james-h-dugger/15/64b/74a/>*
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