Yeah it was a long time ago. I worked there in, I wanna say 2006ish. I left 
shortly after working there for a year. 

Jason

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> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:03 PM, James Dugger <james.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm a developer working at GoDaddy on one of those shared hosting platform 
> teams. Haven't seen any "PC's on bakers racks" Those must be a thing of the 
> past . I do see Dell PowerEdge rack servers "fully pluggable".  We don't buy 
> servers in single quantities, we buy whole preconfigured 42U racks at time.  
> The racks are shipped directly to our datacenters, in AZ, East Coast US, 
> Europe, and Asia.
> 
> 
> Our cloud offering just went live yesterday at prices comparable to 
> DigitalOcean.   We are partnering with Bitnami for packaged server builds and 
> this cloud is connected to our domain services. See reviews below.
> http://www.techmeme.com/160321/p6#a160321p6
> 
> http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/21/godaddy-debuts-aws-style-servers-and-apps-to-build-test-and-scale-cloud-services/
> 
> Somethings can be more important than just cheap, like uptime and speed.  
> GoDaddy ranks in the top 3 or 4 of the fastest providers for products both on 
> Windows and Linux platforms.  
> 
> http://cloudspectator.com/web-host-providers-performance-ranking-a-six-month-summary/
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Sesso <se...@djsesso.com> wrote:
>> yeah I worked at godaddy when they had those little boxes. Yes, the industry 
>> has gone mostly virtual which is understandable. However, there are still 
>> clients that want actual hardware. I sell just as much hardware in my own 
>> business as I do Virtual. My day job sells about the same and we actually 
>> own our own datacenters. The clients that buy hardware are usually large 
>> companies that can afford it. You are right, many clients don’t need it but 
>> they want it lol. They are signing 3 year contracts on these servers also.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> > On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:45 PM, Michael Butash <mich...@butash.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > That (simple/dumb customers), and most of their customer base being that 
>> > really *does not need* dedicated services for what they are doing.  It 
>> > doesn't meet their business model, or technology models around that 
>> > business when consumer cores are still 2-4 per cpu, and you're seeing 
>> > 12-16 per socket, dual socket, and most can take 192-384gb of ram.
>> >
>> > TLDR:
>> >
>> > Most people probably have this delusion that a "dedicated server" is just 
>> > that, a server, but the reality was GD's (and others like them) bare metal 
>> > servers were just generic consumer Shuttle SFF pc boxes on bakers racks as 
>> > far as the eye can see, which meant no IPMI, remote console (outside an 
>> > os), absolutely nothing pluggable aside from usb, and rather a pain to 
>> > deal with provisioning or maintenance-wise.  When someone's system died, a 
>> > kid in a dc got paged out to rip the box apart and troubleshoot them, 
>> > which isn't easy on consumer gear.  They were great when launched in ~2004 
>> > for cost/power/heat, and up until fairly recent still were, but proved 
>> > ultimately unsustainable as any part that failed required some dc tech to 
>> > perform surgery on a SFF case packed with parts, even raid cards, which is 
>> > simply never fun.  It also ends up costing far too much to maintain over 
>> > time in total opex at scale.
>> >
>> > Even then providing dedicated hardware was a challenge even looking at 
>> > real (rack) servers then as an evolution, dealing with ipmi quirks, 
>> > securing networking from root-access users locally (harder than one might 
>> > think across various network hardware), that once handed off to the 
>> > customer simply went out the window to keep them from shooting themselves 
>> > in the foot like not backing up their own server or say, doing rm on root, 
>> > or trying to arp poison/mitm the lan around them and drawing security ire.
>> >
>> > Even if hardware were "dedicated", industry movement is to simply give a 
>> > vm in dedicated hardware, adding a hypervisor shim for control-plane on 
>> > hardware, at very least making inventory, provisioning, maintenance, and 
>> > more importantly, network control at a raw hardware level easy.  It also 
>> > allows providers to bill for usage vs. blanket floodgates, so hey, if you 
>> > want to pay for a whole server of 24 cores and 192gb of ram on a 10g link, 
>> > they'll sell you the cycles/bandwidth for sure, and it'll be about the 
>> > cost of 8 of those shuttles "dedicated" boxes.
>> >
>> > For GD, they could also get rid of data centers full of odd bakers racks 
>> > and dumpters full of old/odd/non-standard consumer Shuttle hardware, 
>> > finally, to deal with standard rack server form-factor hardware built to 
>> > maintain operationally.
>> >
>> > VM's for hosting just make sense, anything dedicated will never be "cheap" 
>> > out of pure reality it doesn't make sense to offer 2-4 core hardware 
>> > systems, or maintain them as stand-alone systems.  Why everyone is a 
>> > "cloud" suddenly years ago, GD was just late to the party.
>> >
>> > -mb
>> >
>> >
>> > On 03/22/2016 11:34 AM, Sesso wrote:
>> >> I asked an employee about it and he said, "our clients are too dumb to 
>> >> realize that that aren't getting a bare metal server."
>> >>
>> >> Jason
>> >>
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