per your suggestion, I have started a new thread with questions related to the mentioned issues.
debate away! -eric from the central offices of the technomage Guild, internet debating society. On Nov 24, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. wrote: > I work in the networking field and I can tell you that the idea that all > traffic can be treated equally is nonsense. If you want services esp latency > sensitive ones like voice and video to be delivered reliably then there will > be traffic shaping. Bandwidth is a limited resource. > > p.s. do not want to hijack the thread if anyone wants to discuss further open > a new thread. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:04 AM, Michael Butash <mich...@butash.net> wrote: > >> If you've ever worked in networking at a carrier or isp level, you know net >> neutrality never really was to begin with. From the beginnings of time, >> there's been a feature called "quality of service" that makes sure some >> traffic is always more important than other traffics, so this has always >> been happening, it's really just more if they apply that lack of priority >> and/or limiting of queue traffic to certain (competing) services, which >> assuredly they already do now too. >> >> This is why I still just download anything I watch like movies and shows >> that aren't just random youtube videos. What delay? This is all on the 2nd >> to the cheapest cox plan - don't need no stinkin' gigablast. >> >> Funny part is my aunt that pays for multiple streaming services and watches >> everything there got hit by Cox's bandwidth cap now. She knows I just >> pirate everything, and ask if I was warned too - nope. I don't think I >> watch tv near as much as she does, but found it funny that legit users are >> most affected and forced to pay even more in just bandwidth overages. >> >> 20 years after downloading my first free music and movies, piracy is still >> the most hassle-free method I can use to watch tv. >> >> -mb >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> >> wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 23:50:33 -0700 >> Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> > well, >> > the media cartels can go pound sand as far as I am concerned. I can >> > get most of the content I want from Amazon, netflix, hulu (if I could >> > ever get around the accessibility issues) or even youtube tv. >> >> You'd better hurry up and give feedback to the FCC not to trash >> Net Neutrality, because in a couple days they vote to allow the >> media cartels to erect toll bridges and speed bumps on the Internet to >> retard Amazon, netflox, hulu, and youtube tv. Without Net Neutrality, >> it's *us* who will be pounding sand. >> >> SteveT >> >> Steve Litt >> November 2017 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts >> http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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