hmmm. Sounds like a package needs adding. Btw, closed captioning is not 
proprietary. It is in such wide use that it has become ubiquitous. However, if 
someone on the gnome project is trying to claim this, then it’s time to educate 
them on the facts of life.

Also, I have had to deal with a great many developers over the years. As soon 
as I mention accessibility, I get the impression of their eyes glazing over and 
then I get the deflection to something else. One developer (for the Chinese 
Independent Radio Project) literally demanded cash money before he would even 
consider accessibility outside of Linux, even though the python libraries for 
accessibility are freely available and cross platform. When I pointed that out, 
he still made the demand for $10k AND he also made the argument about 
maintaining 3 different code bases (which was a lie as he only had one and used 
a cross compiler). After I pointed out the error in his statement, he banned me 
from the chirp mailing list permanently, that is, until some others pointed out 
his actions could cause significant issues within the community (I was not the 
only blind person on that list). I was quietly (and without even an apology) 
invited back into the list. However, to this day, I read that list only and 
don’t bother to comment.

So, yeah, if a developer in the gnome project says that closed captioning is 
proprietary tech, call them on it in a public fashion. It isn’t because 
versions of it are used on YouTube, rumble, Facebook, twitter, and many other 
platforms. Also, last I checked, it was considered  open source.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild,, disability alliance 
committee.

> On Jul 19, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss 
> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> 
> But it's not accessible to the hearing impaired. I had mentioned to gnome on 
> their list and was told they can't put caption into gnome because it is 
> proprietary and gnome feels they can not put it into gnome.
> I don't understand that since it's a standard thing worldwide. So how can it 
> be proprietary.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021, at 09:48, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> Because of some secondary dependencies that are probably needed. And 
>> yes, someone has already made the comment about it being bloated. 
>> However, I disagree as Gnome is fully accessible to the blind and is 
>> compatible with the dozen or so known screen readers for the blind. 
>> KDE, However, is not. It might be slimmer, but that comes with a cost.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Division of 
>> Developmental code for accessibility
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss 
>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You know I'm doing Linux From Scratch and I'm looking into Beyond
>>> Linux from Scratch. Well I look at KDE and I look at Gnome. Gnome has
>>> about twice the pAckages to compile. Why is that?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> 
> 
> -- 
>  Harold Hartley
>  17632 N. 5th place
>  Phoenix, AZ 85022
>  wheelie...@ownmail.net
> ---------------------------------------------------
> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss

---------------------------------------------------
PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
  • LFS Michael via PLUG-discuss
    • Re: LFS Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss
      • Re: LFS Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss
        • Re: LFS Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss
    • Re: LFS Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss
      • Re: LFS Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss
        • Re: LFS Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss

Reply via email to