Very thought provoking Greg!!

I think the number one position that I think is going to continue to grow and outpace all others, no matter the economy, is probably cyber security.

Not sure how I went down this path, however I have watched a number of documentaries on hacking and getting a job in cyber security.

I find this stuff fascinating. One video talked about the Defcon hacker convention in Las Vegas. Admission is in cash and your devices are probably going to be owned. The video said the FBI was in attendance as well.

I'm sure it is like anything else, some have natural talent to become hackers.

One of the videos I watched stated China has a goal of being able to go toe to toe with the USA by 2025. Scary thought.

I would not like to displace anyone with a program, however that might actually cause them to learn some marketable skills.

I have a lot of stories. Around the summer of 1980 I went to a warehouse to buy some stuff with my father. There were 4 people in the office. One filled out the purchase request. One pulled the product and probably updated the product ledger. And one person took my father's money and finalized the sale. Very people intensive.

During that era computers were too expensive, however 5 or 6 years later the commodore and garage 8088 cpu clones became available. At that point I'm thinking I could replace several people in that warehouse with a program that I would be able to create from scratch in just a couple months. And this app would be able to give up the the minute info and do things like determine seasonality and actual demand that could be used to create safety stock.

Oh and to stay on track, If I were to write that program today it would be a browser based PHP/MySQL app and might take me a little longer to create because I would include a lot of AJAX. And of course it would run on a LAMP server.

Keith

On 2022-12-11 16:59, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Hello,
  I don't want to offend anyone but I would like to express some
thoughts on this subject.  It seems after months of this discussion it
might be a good
idea to set aside a special email thread to discuss this material so
others aren't annoyed by the comments and opinions that are
non-technical.  I actually
have enjoyed this little discussion because it proves these subjects
are important to everyone especially technically inclined individuals.


As for my involvement in the subject of ethics I can point to a second
year computer science course I took at SCC in the late 90's csc200.
As the semester wound down to the final weeks the teacher said he
wanted us to write a short essay on the subject of how technology can
impact the lives of others.  He proposed the question: "If you had to
write a program that would put people out of their jobs would you do
so and why?"

I remember he had us write out the ten commandments of computing in a
program as the first programming assignment:
CPSR - The Ten Commandments of Computer Ethics [1]

CPSR - THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF COMPUTER ETHICS

cjohnson

Written by the Computer Ethics Institute

As a result I have researched and read many books on the subject so
forgive me if we deviate a little.  All of you mean something to me
and others so
lets not fight against one another.

Turning to Linux again, in the next year what subject would you study
so that you would have the skills to find good reliable jobs and
careers to provide
for yourself?

Lets come up with a plan that is broken down into 3 months for each
skill so that each of us has what it takes to compete for and acquire
the best jobs and maybe just maybe we can turn the economic ship in
the direction it need go in for all of us.
thanks,
Greg

 On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 06:13:06 AM MST, George Toft via
PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

Part 2 on your 35% comment:

with higher prices come higher wages and the gov't gets more taxes.
After a few years, Congress will adjust the tax code, meanwhile the
really low income folks who weren't paying much, pay quite a bit.

Regards,

George Toft

On 12/2/2022 7:19 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Hi Ed,



On 2022-12-01 22:37, Ed via PLUG-discuss wrote:
you should look up the difference between a recession and a
depression. Odds are we will have a middling recession, but the
real
problem is and will be inflation. Inflation is a ratchet, it only
goes
in one direction and hits everyone and everything*. It's like a
network that has more and more noise on the line. For context,
consider that people experience something like a half dozen
recessions
in their lifetime - more or less. It's the business cycle.

I'm old so I have lived through more bad economies than good
economies.

I think this one is going to be the worst of all.



You already said it -  you expect robotics to become more involved
so
go do that. Just remember robots are capital intensive - so go with
the big.


I'm specializing in browser based business web apps.  I like
robotics,
however at this station in my life it is probably not a good fit.


*except for Japan and it's lost decade(s) - they had/have deflation


I think we are about to have really bad inflation for the next 10
years. Based on what I hear, the fed cannot raise interest rates
high
enough to kill inflation because we have over 30 trillion in
national
debt.  It is my understanding that as they raise interest rates the
cost of servicing the debt goes up.  Given that we may have to just
ride this out.

Another thought that is floating around is the Federal Gov. likes
inflation.  Think about it.  If we have 10% inflation for the next
10
years that means the value of national debt is reduced to 35% of
what
is is today.




On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:13 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
<plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:



Hi,

I am reading and watching YouTube videos that say the economy is
going
to tank to maybe as bad as the depression.

If this is true what skills are going to be in demand.

I suspect there will be a real push to automate things so I'm
guessing
those who can create browser based business web apps and phone
apps
will
be in high demand.  That will equate to the administrator skills
to
support such things.

I also expect robotics to become more involved in factories,
manufacturing, and even flipping burgers.

What say you?

Thanks!!

Keith
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